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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6700015" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>Tiamat and the Tarrasque do not have equivalent defenses. I'm AFB, but a warlock should be fine against the Tarrasque, because unlike Tiamat it doesn't have blanket immunity to spells below 7th level. I don't remember offhand what its immunities are, but if nothing else you could Vampiric Touch V it effectively for 5d6 points of damage per round, whereas Tiamat is immune to that. I think it is immune to ranged spell attacks like Eldritch Blast but you could still Chill Touch it to death while running Expeditious Retreat (because Chill Touch is a melee spell attack even though it has 120' range), and Tiamat is likewise immune to that too. Or you could check Lightning Bolts and Fireballs at it, or cast Hold Monster to paralyze it while your allies beat it to death, Finger of Death it, True Polymorph it into a statue, etc. Again I am AFB so don't shoot me if I get details wrong (e.g. if it's immune to fire)--my point is that Tiamat's defenses are the highest of the high end, and even then you're actually not supposed to fight her at full strength: if you do everything right, or most things right, you'll have weakened the ritual enough that she won't have spell immunity at all.</p><p></p><p>Don't forget that you don't have to fight using only the PHB combat rules. If a low-level PC somehow winds up needing to prevent the Tarrasque from eating his town, he's not going to give up and die just because he has no high-level spells. You still have options like luring it into a peat bog where it can drown, or flooding the river so it doesn't want to cross, or getting everybody out of town and just filling the town with cows for it to eat. 5E works really well with level-inappropriate challenges; that's a large part of why Bounded Accuracy exists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6700015, member: 6787650"] Tiamat and the Tarrasque do not have equivalent defenses. I'm AFB, but a warlock should be fine against the Tarrasque, because unlike Tiamat it doesn't have blanket immunity to spells below 7th level. I don't remember offhand what its immunities are, but if nothing else you could Vampiric Touch V it effectively for 5d6 points of damage per round, whereas Tiamat is immune to that. I think it is immune to ranged spell attacks like Eldritch Blast but you could still Chill Touch it to death while running Expeditious Retreat (because Chill Touch is a melee spell attack even though it has 120' range), and Tiamat is likewise immune to that too. Or you could check Lightning Bolts and Fireballs at it, or cast Hold Monster to paralyze it while your allies beat it to death, Finger of Death it, True Polymorph it into a statue, etc. Again I am AFB so don't shoot me if I get details wrong (e.g. if it's immune to fire)--my point is that Tiamat's defenses are the highest of the high end, and even then you're actually not supposed to fight her at full strength: if you do everything right, or most things right, you'll have weakened the ritual enough that she won't have spell immunity at all. Don't forget that you don't have to fight using only the PHB combat rules. If a low-level PC somehow winds up needing to prevent the Tarrasque from eating his town, he's not going to give up and die just because he has no high-level spells. You still have options like luring it into a peat bog where it can drown, or flooding the river so it doesn't want to cross, or getting everybody out of town and just filling the town with cows for it to eat. 5E works really well with level-inappropriate challenges; that's a large part of why Bounded Accuracy exists. [/QUOTE]
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