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<blockquote data-quote="Seramus" data-source="post: 9474611" data-attributes="member: 6812658">But finding the lore is brought up so many times in the Warlock description, it seems to be a very important part of the class narrative. Just look at this! &quot;In no time, each Warlock is drawn into a binding pact with a powerful patron. Drawing on the ancient knowledge of beings such as angels, archfey, demons, devils, hags, and alien entities of the Far Realm, Warlocks piece together arcane secrets to bolster their own power.&quot; And further &quot;Once a pact is made, a Warlock's thirst for knowledge and power can't be slaked with mere study. Most Warlocks spend their days pursuing greater power and deeper knowledge, which typically means some kind of adventure.&quot;Drawing on the ancient knowledge? Piecing together arcane secrets? Thirst for knowledge can't be slaked? Pursuing greater power and deeper knowledge?This is a slam dunk, man.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f913.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":geek:" title="Geek&nbsp; &nbsp; :geek:"&nbsp; data-smilie="30"data-shortname=":geek:" />Interestingly, Complete Arcane came out with the Cha Warlock in 2004, and just four years later we saw the release of 4th Edition with the Con/Int/Cha Warlock. It wasn't for 6 more years that we saw the release of 5th Edition (2004 &gt; 2008 &gt; 2014). So prior to 5th we've got 50% more time spent as Con/Int/Cha than just Cha. Certainly 5th Edition was an incredibly strong attempt to move away from the backlash against 4E, but we know <a href="https://x.com/JeremyECrawford/status/810215324784193536" target="_blank">Jeremy Crawford</a> said the Warlock was actually going to be an Int caster in 5E until playtest feedback pushed back on it!Personally, I'm fine with both Int and Cha. I can think of several classes that could be given 2 choices of primary stat; it's something we've had in the past, and contemporaries to 5E D&amp;D like Pathfinder 2E have been using the &quot;2+ Choices&quot; approach for a while now. I wouldn't have a problem with Int being on the list of primary stats for Cleric, but at least they have the Thaumaturge ability to add their Wis to Int checks now. Heck, 4E had Clerics as Str/Wis/Cha!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Seramus, post: 9474611, member: 6812658"] But [I]finding[/I] the lore is brought up so many times in the Warlock description, it seems to be a [B]very[/B] important part of the class narrative. Just look at this! "[I]In no time, each Warlock is drawn into a binding pact with a powerful patron. Drawing on the ancient knowledge of beings such as angels, archfey, demons, devils, hags, and alien entities of the Far Realm, Warlocks piece together arcane secrets to bolster their own power.[/I]" And further "[I]Once a pact is made, a Warlock's thirst for knowledge and power can't be slaked with mere study. Most Warlocks spend their days pursuing greater power and deeper knowledge, which typically means some kind of adventure.[/I]" Drawing on the ancient knowledge? Piecing together arcane secrets? Thirst for knowledge can't be slaked? Pursuing greater power and deeper knowledge? This is a slam dunk, man. :geek: Interestingly, Complete Arcane came out with the Cha Warlock in 2004, and just four years later we saw the release of 4th Edition with the Con/Int/Cha Warlock. It wasn't for 6 more years that we saw the release of 5th Edition (2004 > 2008 > 2014). So prior to 5th we've got 50% more time spent as Con/Int/Cha than just Cha. Certainly 5th Edition was an incredibly strong attempt to move away from the backlash against 4E, but we know [URL='https://x.com/JeremyECrawford/status/810215324784193536']Jeremy Crawford[/URL] said the Warlock was actually going to be an Int caster in 5E until playtest feedback pushed back on it! Personally, I'm fine with both Int and Cha. I can think of [I]several[/I] classes that could be given 2 choices of primary stat; it's something we've had in the past, and contemporaries to 5E D&D like Pathfinder 2E have been using the "2+ Choices" approach for a while now. I wouldn't have a problem with Int being on the list of primary stats for Cleric, but at least they have the Thaumaturge ability to add their Wis to Int checks now. Heck, 4E had Clerics as Str/Wis/Cha! [/QUOTE]

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