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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9475299" data-attributes="member: 6750235">The fact that you called it a variation of bread is proof in itself.&nbsp; Bread is a spectrum.That's just an argument in semantics, however.&nbsp; &quot;Sandwich&quot; is an umbrella term and &quot;hot dog&quot; is a specific term.&nbsp; All hotdogs are sandwiches but not all sandwiches are hotdogs.&nbsp; ;-)[ATTACH=full]381753[/ATTACH]That's still both a hotdog and a sandwich because the buns or bread are interchangeable.&nbsp; Hot dogs lovers who are educated on the terms in use are not responsible for the lack of education of the general public. Just because many people believe something to be true doesn't make it so.&nbsp; That's how the social construct of the hot dog as different from a sandwich falsely perpetuates.It's the same thought process that leads to the Earth being flat because many flat-earthers believe it to be flat.&nbsp; Or many round-earthers believe it to be round.&nbsp; Many people don't realize this but the Earth is in fact a 3 dimensional trapezoid as demonstrated by the evolution of giraffes developing long necks in the lower hemizoid.Are those not people who help define legal terms?&nbsp; That should count for something.And yes, a taco is also a sandwich but a sandwich is&nbsp; not a taco as we circle back to umbrella terms versus specific terms.&nbsp; The specific terms are simply more common practice in modern (living) vernacular.How is &quot;soup&quot; not a &quot;steeped beverage&quot;?&nbsp; It's literally liquid steeped in spices and ingredients that can be served hot or cold.&nbsp; All you've done is made a statement that begs the question of how we define &quot;beverage&quot;.&nbsp; ;-)&quot;Coffee&quot; is made from a stone fruit and is a legitimate broth, which is also a more specific term under the umbrella term &quot;soup&quot;.Except not all broths are made from meat.&nbsp; There are vegetable and fruit broths.&nbsp; Like coffee.That's because we use a living language.&nbsp; Words change and evolve and just because we might not be aware of some of the nuances doesn't change the existence of those nuances.&nbsp; We're all learning a new languages from our early development even when it's our primary language but that doesn't me we're aware of the entirety of that language.&nbsp; ;-)You're too late.&nbsp; Coffee (broth) is already an active soup ingredient.&nbsp; Like <a href="https://www.amish365.com/amish-coffee-soup/" target="_blank">coffee soup</a>, <a href="https://food52.com/recipes/25693-french-onion-soup-with-coffee" target="_blank">french onion coffee soup</a>, or <a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/108540/kentucky-tomato-soup/" target="_blank">tomato soup</a>.Exactly.&nbsp; Coffee broth and bouillon broth not being the same thing is us fooling ourselves with word play.&nbsp; Descartes understands.&nbsp; ;-)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 9475299, member: 6750235"] The fact that you called it a variation of bread is proof in itself. Bread is a spectrum. That's just an argument in semantics, however. "Sandwich" is an umbrella term and "hot dog" is a specific term. All hotdogs are sandwiches but not all sandwiches are hotdogs. ;-) [ATTACH type="full"]381753[/ATTACH] That's still both a hotdog and a sandwich because the buns or bread are interchangeable. Hot dogs lovers who are educated on the terms in use are not responsible for the lack of education of the general public. Just because many people believe something to be true doesn't make it so. That's how the social construct of the hot dog as different from a sandwich falsely perpetuates. It's the same thought process that leads to the Earth being flat because many flat-earthers believe it to be flat. Or many round-earthers believe it to be round. Many people don't realize this but the Earth is in fact a 3 dimensional trapezoid as demonstrated by the evolution of giraffes developing long necks in the lower hemizoid. Are those not people who help define legal terms? That should count for something. And yes, a taco is also a sandwich but a sandwich is not a taco as we circle back to umbrella terms versus specific terms. The specific terms are simply more common practice in modern (living) vernacular. How is "soup" not a "steeped beverage"? It's literally liquid steeped in spices and ingredients that can be served hot or cold. All you've done is made a statement that begs the question of how we define "beverage". ;-) "Coffee" is made from a stone fruit and is a legitimate broth, which is also a more specific term under the umbrella term "soup". Except not all broths are made from meat. There are vegetable and fruit broths. Like coffee. That's because we use a living language. Words change and evolve and just because we might not be aware of some of the nuances doesn't change the existence of those nuances. We're all learning a new languages from our early development even when it's our primary language but that doesn't me we're aware of the entirety of that language. ;-) You're too late. Coffee (broth) is already an active soup ingredient. Like [URL='https://www.amish365.com/amish-coffee-soup/']coffee soup[/URL], [URL='https://food52.com/recipes/25693-french-onion-soup-with-coffee']french onion coffee soup[/URL], or [URL='https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/108540/kentucky-tomato-soup/']tomato soup[/URL]. Exactly. Coffee broth and bouillon broth not being the same thing is us fooling ourselves with word play. Descartes understands. ;-) [/QUOTE]

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