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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ARandomGod" data-source="post: 1875875" data-attributes="member: 17296">The person in question (and this build looked really, really good), cited things like "quiken spell like ability'".Are you saying that the eldritch blast is not a spell like ability? Or one not allowed by the empower spell like ability feat? It does LOOK like it's a spell like ability to me:"A warlock's invocations are spell like abilities; ..." ... subject to spell resist, caster level equal to warlock level with regards to spell resist...No, there's some more quotes: ... (not spells so cannot benifit from spell focus, can benifit from ability focus...) "He can, however, benifit from the Ability Focus feat (303 monsters manual), as well as from feats that emulate metamagic effects for spell-like abilities, such as "Quicken Spell-Like Ability and Empower Spell-Like ability (303-304 Monsters Manual)".Straight out of the Complete Arcane, and suggests strongly that he can do this. Although... wait for it... I might see what you're talking about (looked in SRD under MonsterFeats. "The creature can only select a spell-like ability duplicating a spell with a level less than or equal to half its caster level (round down) –2."Ah HA! I see now what you were referring to that he can cast lower than his level, allowing an empower. So. A 12th level warlock is what I'm using (What he's building), a 6d6 blast. Instead of (6d6x1.5=9d6) He'd have to half his level -2, or level 4, which is 2d6 (3d6 empowered). Definitely not as overpowered as using his full strength. With the above qote though, you can see how he wouldn't have gotten that necessarily.And quicken is half -4. So not anywhere near decent.I don't see maximize in the SRD, but going by the pattern I see, I assume it's half -3. None of those are worth it in any way.Heheh... well, I guess that answers most of my questions1) Is this a correct interpretation? : Not exactly. 2)Overpowered? : If anything, doing this is severly underpowered. (I think it was pretty overpowered as he thought it was though).3) Balanced? : Sure... hehehehhh..4)Not worth taking the feats? Definitely not worth it?</blockquote>

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