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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1960363" data-attributes="member: 478">In all honesty... that's what the rules say.&nbsp;&nbsp;And I seriously doubt, they are intended to work that way. But I think that's only a problem with these parts, not with the general rule, which states over and over again, that it's the action that provokes.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;No, if I was, I would say the above... yet, I say, that all actions involving ranged full attacks and Manyshot do provoke.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Any action, that involves ranged weapon attacks normally provokes. That's something I would immediately agree upon.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes, it is. The type of attack is used to determine, whether the action does provoke an AoO. It's the action that provokes, not the attack, yet it's the attack, which determines, whether it does so (in case of actions, which involve attacks only, obviously).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I think that very much involves physical touch, because spells have no physical body of themselves. You need to touch, make physical contact, to deliver them. But only in the case of melee touch spells. With ranged touch spells, the spell itself has a physical body... a ray.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yep. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Well, you need to let the part sink in, that only actions provoke. Then you are half there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;Not ranged attacks provoke, but actions that involve ranged attacks.&nbsp;&nbsp;Actions that involve both spellcasting and ranged attacks also provoke. It's still one action, so only one AoO, tho.&nbsp;&nbsp;Bye&nbsp;Thanee</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1960363, member: 478"] In all honesty... that's what the rules say. And I seriously doubt, they are intended to work that way. But I think that's only a problem with these parts, not with the general rule, which states over and over again, that it's the action that provokes. No, if I was, I would say the above... yet, I say, that all actions involving ranged full attacks and Manyshot do provoke. Any action, that involves ranged weapon attacks normally provokes. That's something I would immediately agree upon. Yes, it is. The type of attack is used to determine, whether the [b]action[/b] does provoke an AoO. It's the action that provokes, not the attack, yet it's the attack, which determines, whether it does so (in case of actions, which involve attacks only, obviously). I think that very much involves physical touch, because spells have no physical body of themselves. You need to touch, make physical contact, to deliver them. But only in the case of melee touch spells. With ranged touch spells, the spell itself has a physical body... a ray. Yep. ;) Well, you need to let the part sink in, that only actions provoke. Then you are half there. ;) Not ranged attacks provoke, but actions that involve ranged attacks. Actions that involve both spellcasting and ranged attacks also provoke. It's still one action, so only one AoO, tho. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]

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