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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 1961504" data-attributes="member: 284"><p>It clearly does not fit all the quotes.</p><p> </p><p>You state that only the Standard Attack (ranged) action provokes. </p><p> </p><p>The PHB states that Full Attack action does not provoke. This means it would not provoke even if you use a Full Attack Action to make ranged attacks. You say the PHB is in error.</p><p> </p><p>The Manyshot feat uses a Standard Action, not a Standard Attack (ranged) action. You say that this is also an error in the rules, it should provoke. </p><p> </p><p>The AoO rules also state that attacking with a ranged weapon provokes (not using the Standard Attack (ranged) option). You say that this is also an error, that it is being used out of context.</p><p> </p><p>So, your interpretation does indeed fit the rules, as long as you throw out every part of the rules that disagrees with your interpretation. </p><p> </p><p>That may work for you, but I'm afraid that I don't find it very convincing. It does not seem consistent with the intent of the rules or the RAW.</p><p> </p><p>If you use the interpretation that any ranged weapon attack (not the Attack (ranged) Action) provokes, you don't have to ignore or throw out any part of the rules. </p><p> </p><p>It does lead to the possibility of two AoO opportunities for some spells, but I hardly think that is unbalancing or game breaking. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>If you don't think casting a ranged touch spell (or using eldritch blast) should provide two AoO opportunities, you would have a stronger case by argueing that they are not ranged weapon attacks. </p><p> </p><p>I think there is considerable gray area there, and it could be reasonably ruled either way. Personally, I think the preponderance of evidence points towards them being treated as ranged weapons, but not by a great margin. I was hoping to see some convincing arguements against them being classified as ranged weapon attacks. I would try, but I'm biased because I play a sorcerer that relies heavily on ranged spells. I don't trust my own arguements on that score. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 1961504, member: 284"] It clearly does not fit all the quotes. You state that only the Standard Attack (ranged) action provokes. The PHB states that Full Attack action does not provoke. This means it would not provoke even if you use a Full Attack Action to make ranged attacks. You say the PHB is in error. The Manyshot feat uses a Standard Action, not a Standard Attack (ranged) action. You say that this is also an error in the rules, it should provoke. The AoO rules also state that attacking with a ranged weapon provokes (not using the Standard Attack (ranged) option). You say that this is also an error, that it is being used out of context. So, your interpretation does indeed fit the rules, as long as you throw out every part of the rules that disagrees with your interpretation. That may work for you, but I'm afraid that I don't find it very convincing. It does not seem consistent with the intent of the rules or the RAW. If you use the interpretation that any ranged weapon attack (not the Attack (ranged) Action) provokes, you don't have to ignore or throw out any part of the rules. It does lead to the possibility of two AoO opportunities for some spells, but I hardly think that is unbalancing or game breaking. If you don't think casting a ranged touch spell (or using eldritch blast) should provide two AoO opportunities, you would have a stronger case by argueing that they are not ranged weapon attacks. I think there is considerable gray area there, and it could be reasonably ruled either way. Personally, I think the preponderance of evidence points towards them being treated as ranged weapons, but not by a great margin. I was hoping to see some convincing arguements against them being classified as ranged weapon attacks. I would try, but I'm biased because I play a sorcerer that relies heavily on ranged spells. I don't trust my own arguements on that score. :) [/QUOTE]
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