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<blockquote data-quote="Terramotus" data-source="post: 3934022" data-attributes="member: 7220"><p>Let's take the label "evil", and all of the different definitions thereof, out of the arrangement, especially since it's been stated that most players will be unaligned in 4E.</p><p></p><p>The real question, I think, is can a Warlock using an evil power source be a hero? As long as the forces he has a pact with don't require constant havoc to be wreaked on their behalf, I think he probably can, at least to some people. He may be using a power called Soul Ruin, but maybe he's using it on that tribe of ugly giant things that are stealing our children in the middle of the night and crushing the farmsteads of people I've known all my life. If he does that, he's my hero.</p><p></p><p>Depending on looks, he might be shunned when he enters the town, but that's just good drama from a game standpoint. And yeah, maybe in the long term he's increasing the overall suffering in the world. That doesn't mean everyone's going to hate him, and, besides, people make bad choices all the time. It reminds me a lot of Elric - regardless of what you think of him, I don't think I'd personally term him unredeemably evil. In fact, I'm betting that with the right feats you'll be able to make a decent facsimile of him in 4E as a Warlock who wears armor and uses swords.</p><p></p><p>It all depends on what kind of game you want to run and what kind of players you have. You might not allow that sort of thing to go on at all, or you might just be running a different kind of game. That said, I would be absolutely shocked if there were only evil or neutral power sources to draw upon for the Warlock.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Terramotus, post: 3934022, member: 7220"] Let's take the label "evil", and all of the different definitions thereof, out of the arrangement, especially since it's been stated that most players will be unaligned in 4E. The real question, I think, is can a Warlock using an evil power source be a hero? As long as the forces he has a pact with don't require constant havoc to be wreaked on their behalf, I think he probably can, at least to some people. He may be using a power called Soul Ruin, but maybe he's using it on that tribe of ugly giant things that are stealing our children in the middle of the night and crushing the farmsteads of people I've known all my life. If he does that, he's my hero. Depending on looks, he might be shunned when he enters the town, but that's just good drama from a game standpoint. And yeah, maybe in the long term he's increasing the overall suffering in the world. That doesn't mean everyone's going to hate him, and, besides, people make bad choices all the time. It reminds me a lot of Elric - regardless of what you think of him, I don't think I'd personally term him unredeemably evil. In fact, I'm betting that with the right feats you'll be able to make a decent facsimile of him in 4E as a Warlock who wears armor and uses swords. It all depends on what kind of game you want to run and what kind of players you have. You might not allow that sort of thing to go on at all, or you might just be running a different kind of game. That said, I would be absolutely shocked if there were only evil or neutral power sources to draw upon for the Warlock. [/QUOTE]
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