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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9858779" data-attributes="member: 93670">Yea it's bad design built primarily so it  caters to munchkinism under an umbrella of "RoLePlAyInG" that shields it from the gm ever leaning in or calling bs.  All of that was before Crawford gleefully leaned in talking about how it was by intended design that the warlock patron couldn't expect or deny anything from the warlock.I once had a table of players who were going off on a quest to clear out a ancient temple/tomb/fortress kinda thing so one of the players could do a thing there using the natural energy present (iirc it involved a wizard crafting a magic weapon for the party fighter).  Wanting to involve more players  by hooking in their PCs when I was building it I decided that it would be occupied by a group of fey of a different faction than the fey pact warlock in the party figuring that the self proclaimed roleplayers who loved reminding us would have some reaction to finding out it was get occupied.When the players were given the quest it was made explicitly clear that the temple was fet occupied... No reaction from the feylock player.The players had something∆ to finish in town after finding out about the quest.  When one of the other players brought up a few minutes later how it might be a problem that they should plan for the warlock player literally said "no warlock doesn't work that way, my patron can't do anything to me even if it's their fey".When the gm responded with <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="‼️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/203c.png" title="Double exclamation mark    :bangbang:" data-shortname=":bangbang:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="⁉️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/2049.png" title="Exclamation question mark    :interrobang:" data-shortname=":interrobang:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />uhh... You are always invoking the "I'm a RoLePlAyEr and.." swear and really should reach out<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="‼️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/203c.png" title="Double exclamation mark    :bangbang:" data-shortname=":bangbang:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="⁉️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/2049.png" title="Exclamation question mark    :interrobang:" data-shortname=":interrobang:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />.the fey pact player said "ok I do that"§.  When the player was pushed to elaborate on how, there was an effort to brush it off with "the way I usually do when I need to reach out"§.   One of the other players (cleric maybe?) at the table called BS on that for the gm and convinced the fey pact player that they need to engage in & describe some kinda ritual like that time their cleric did x$thing. "Oh I guess I buy cake and leave it in the Forest, let's go"§.  The fey pact PC was visited by a fey messenger and told story stuff about the temple they were told to dedicate to their mutual patron/ruler so it could be claimed by them and taken from the fey who were defiling it. Party goes through the whole temple slaughtering fey who try to verbally make it personal with an enemy representative and the other players are more involved in the banter than the fey pact PC's player.  At no point did the warlock player take any act whatsoever to claim or dedicate the temple to their patron and they literally cited Crawford on the matter. Obviously whatever fet based series of adventures was jettisoned into the nearest dumpster fire but the campaign continued for a few months of weekly sessions but ultimately that was also one of the last groups I was willing to run 5e for, I very much doubt that I would allow warlocks at my table if that were to change ∆it wasn't relevant what the something was. iirc it was holiday related and I gave their PCs Christmas presents or something silly?§ Word For Word Quote. No over the months of play at that point the player had not once attempted to reach out to the patron</blockquote>

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