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Warlocks' patrons vs. Paladin Oaths and Cleric Deities
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<blockquote data-quote="Paul Farquhar" data-source="post: 9859211" data-attributes="member: 6906155"><p>Great Old Ones are rarely aware that they even have warlocks drawing on their power. You are being far to legalistic in your interpretation of the word "pact". Which is my point - devils are basically lawyers with horns. But many of the other warlock patrons (including other fiends) are very different in nature, and some are far to chaotic to stick to an agreement even if one is made (think marriage - sometimes a partner cheats). And even devils classically only want your soul after death. What they do with the granted power in life is entirely up to the warlock. Playing a warlock is not an excuse to beat the player if they don't do what the DM tells them (neither is cleric or paladin).</p><p></p><p>A fey patron may be the warlock's fairy lover, and is unlikely to have any agenda - unless the warlock should want to love someone else. A GOO patron may be anything from a vast unknowable entity to the warlock's unborn parasitic twin. The power relationship may go either way - Prospero binds Ariel to his service, not the other way around. Elric and Stormbringer constantly struggle for dominance, and have a mutual dependence, not a contract.</p><p></p><p>So leave it to the players. Any attempt to rulefy a pact is going to fail to cover all possibilities, and the great thing about the warlocks is their variability.</p><p></p><p>And <em>under no circumstances</em> try to tell a player how they should be playing their character.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paul Farquhar, post: 9859211, member: 6906155"] Great Old Ones are rarely aware that they even have warlocks drawing on their power. You are being far to legalistic in your interpretation of the word "pact". Which is my point - devils are basically lawyers with horns. But many of the other warlock patrons (including other fiends) are very different in nature, and some are far to chaotic to stick to an agreement even if one is made (think marriage - sometimes a partner cheats). And even devils classically only want your soul after death. What they do with the granted power in life is entirely up to the warlock. Playing a warlock is not an excuse to beat the player if they don't do what the DM tells them (neither is cleric or paladin). A fey patron may be the warlock's fairy lover, and is unlikely to have any agenda - unless the warlock should want to love someone else. A GOO patron may be anything from a vast unknowable entity to the warlock's unborn parasitic twin. The power relationship may go either way - Prospero binds Ariel to his service, not the other way around. Elric and Stormbringer constantly struggle for dominance, and have a mutual dependence, not a contract. So leave it to the players. Any attempt to rulefy a pact is going to fail to cover all possibilities, and the great thing about the warlocks is their variability. And [I]under no circumstances[/I] try to tell a player how they should be playing their character. [/QUOTE]
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