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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9860080" data-attributes="member: 7635">But it can not enable them. If the DM wants to set up the paladin in the Kobayashi Maru to strip him of his paladinhood, he can do so. However, the 5e DM has to create the mechanism to strip him of his status and state that exists as a house rule at session zero. In AD&amp;D, the DM need only say &quot;hey man, the rules say X is an evil act, and I'm just playing by the rules.&quot; In both situations, the DM is being a jerk. In the former, the DM is saying &quot;I am going to sit in judgement of your paladin'* actions&quot; while the latter is saying &quot;hey, the rules say you are losing your power, I'm just being an arbiter of what the rules say.&quot;You want to be a micromanaging DM who keeps your PCs on a short leash? Own it. Put it in your house rules how whipped your clerics, warlocks and paladins (and possibly others) are going to be. Don't hide behind &quot;but the rulebook says...&quot; When you put those characters in &quot;role playing situations&quot; that screw over their class features...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 9860080, member: 7635"] But it can not enable them. If the DM wants to set up the paladin in the Kobayashi Maru to strip him of his paladinhood, he can do so. However, the 5e DM has to create the mechanism to strip him of his status and state that exists as a house rule at session zero. In AD&D, the DM need only say "hey man, the rules say X is an evil act, and I'm just playing by the rules." In both situations, the DM is being a jerk. In the former, the DM is saying "[I]I[/I] am going to sit in judgement of your paladin'* actions" while the latter is saying "hey, [I]the rules[/I] say you are losing your power, [I]I'm[/I] just being an arbiter of what the rules say." You want to be a micromanaging DM who keeps your PCs on a short leash? Own it. Put it in your house rules how whipped your clerics, warlocks and paladins (and possibly others) are going to be. Don't hide behind "but the rulebook says..." When you put those characters in "role playing situations" that screw over their class features... [/QUOTE]

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