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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9860784" data-attributes="member: 87792">And the Stanford Prison Experiment is extremely relevant with respect to older versions of D&D because BT being TOLD to strip the class abilities the game TOLD the DMs to be jerks. And yes not every viking hat DM is a jerk - but only about a third of the Stanford guards were abusive.It's not about assuming that jerk DMs are the norm. It's about not setting up systems to encourage people to become jerks.And as a personal observation not every viking hat DM I've played with was a jerk and not every jerk GM had a viking hat - but the odds are extremely lopsided. And there is not one single good thing I've seen done by a viking hat DM that required the viking hat."The basic premise of their class" according to who? According to E Gary Gygax killing surrendered prisoners is entirely in line with the behaviour of a lawful good paladin; I reject that notion and with it his authority.And if I reject the authority of E Gary Gygax himself to tell me what the basic premise of either Lawful Good or the paladin class is when he is the one who wrote it into AD&D why should I accept yours or you accept mine? The only person with the authority to say what the basic premise of a character is is the player of that character. The DM gets a veto but not a line-item veto.</blockquote>