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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jediking" data-source="post: 6841405" data-attributes="member: 6803126">I had a player who wanted to play a Cleric, but was undecided on what domain he wanted because he didn't know what the tenets/ideals/rules to follow would be, and didn't want to have a personality or alignment forced on him. So I asked him what domain he wanted the most and we made up our own god: Zor, the Bolt of Justice was created! (Zeus/Thor, because we are sooo creative). We put down a couple key words (Justice, Merciless, Fickle) and Zor exemplifies those ideals to the extreme, even if they contradict sometimes. Now the Cleric can play as he wanted but still be able to disagree or have conflict with his own god and fellow followers in some ways. Plus, he doesn't have to agree with his god ALL the time, he's an individual character who can question whatever he wants.So maybe make up the Patron with the Paladin. Get the general deal that happened to get his powers agreed to, but leave room for how and figure out why the Paladin feels cheated or sore at what the situation is now. My 2cp</blockquote>