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<blockquote data-quote="JGulick" data-source="post: 4485179" data-attributes="member: 66409"><p>Let me try to make it a little more obvious why this is a major power-up for this power.</p><p></p><p>Let's make the attack a Ranged Burst.</p><p></p><p>It goes off in the middle of the party, everyone is hit for damage.</p><p></p><p>The Warlord moves the Great Weapon Fighter out of the burst (he is no longer damaged) and adjacent to the original attacker.</p><p></p><p>The smack is laid down, the original attacker falls. Unlikely? Not really... every opponent falls to an attack eventually, why not this one?</p><p></p><p>Now, suddenly *no one* was ever hit by the burst, because the burst didn't happen.</p><p></p><p>So now a warlock power that is meant to save one person has saved multiple persons. In fact, it can now save the warlock himself, even though he's explicitly not his own Ally.</p><p></p><p>And you've created a "grandfather paradox" not normally possible in the Interrupt world... you've allowed a power that targets on someone being hit to not just make them be missed, it makes the attack retroactively never have happened, which means the hit certainly didn't happen. And no, don't even try to deny that the rules on PHB269 are "not strict order of steps". They couldn't be clearer.</p><p></p><p>Not necessary, not supported by the RAW, and a power-up on a power that really doesn't need any help to be quite useful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JGulick, post: 4485179, member: 66409"] Let me try to make it a little more obvious why this is a major power-up for this power. Let's make the attack a Ranged Burst. It goes off in the middle of the party, everyone is hit for damage. The Warlord moves the Great Weapon Fighter out of the burst (he is no longer damaged) and adjacent to the original attacker. The smack is laid down, the original attacker falls. Unlikely? Not really... every opponent falls to an attack eventually, why not this one? Now, suddenly *no one* was ever hit by the burst, because the burst didn't happen. So now a warlock power that is meant to save one person has saved multiple persons. In fact, it can now save the warlock himself, even though he's explicitly not his own Ally. And you've created a "grandfather paradox" not normally possible in the Interrupt world... you've allowed a power that targets on someone being hit to not just make them be missed, it makes the attack retroactively never have happened, which means the hit certainly didn't happen. And no, don't even try to deny that the rules on PHB269 are "not strict order of steps". They couldn't be clearer. Not necessary, not supported by the RAW, and a power-up on a power that really doesn't need any help to be quite useful. [/QUOTE]
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