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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6047456" data-attributes="member: 2067">While I feel a bit like I'm stepping back into a Philosophy 101 classroom, I think it's pretty non-controversial to say that someone who is decieved -- tricked -- still makes a decision, that decision just happens to be one that is bad for them to make, since they made it without a true understanding of the ramifications.That's different than being forced to take a certain action. The decision to swing a bat or not is still a decision -- the pitcher doesn't get to make that call, they just get to try and trick the batter into making the wrong decision.But I'm glad we've all ceded the point I tried to make in the first post, anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6047456, member: 2067"] While I feel a bit like I'm stepping back into a Philosophy 101 classroom, I think it's pretty non-controversial to say that someone who is decieved -- tricked -- still makes a decision, that decision just happens to be one that is bad for them to make, since they made it without a true understanding of the ramifications. That's different than being forced to take a certain action. The decision to swing a bat or not is still a decision -- the pitcher doesn't get to make that call, they just get to try and trick the batter into making the wrong decision. But I'm glad we've all ceded the point I tried to make in the first post, anyway. :) [/QUOTE]

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