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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 6734248" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>I disagree. 4E did not "explicitly" state that it doesn't give you the ability to lead, it said you weren't necessarily the group leader; which is a different thing entirely.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is actually a pretty good representation of what real-life Leadership is. Leadership is not about telling people what to do. That would be Authority.</p><p></p><p>It's a common misconception of those that don't understand what Leadership is.</p><p></p><p>And [MENTION=5142]Aldarc[/MENTION] , that is not a pedantic differentiation. Leadership is one of the most misunderstood concepts.</p><p></p><p>It was a deliberate decision as to why the Warlord we've been working on in the<em> W<em>arlording the Fighter</em></em> thread does not tell other characters what to do. The mechanical representation of Leadership is expressed through a group bonus. The Warlord's display of Leadership enables a group to function more synergistically. That's all.</p><p></p><p>Practicing Leadership does not necessarily require one to be in charge. Exhibiting Leadership is not defined by telling others what to do. One does not need to be the<em> Leader of a Group </em>in order to be a Leader or possess Leadership.</p><p></p><p>You know that guy at work that just always seems to be "with it"? You know that girl at your job that everybody always goes to for advice when they have a work problem? You know that coworker that always seems to see beyond the noise and usually has the best idea for how to get something done?</p><p></p><p>Those are Leaders. They aren't telling anybody what to do. They aren't necessarily in charge. But they most definitely display Leadership and function as Leaders.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>That </em></strong>is a Warlord. (...and Yes, it absolutely does need a better name!!!)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it would have been the deathknell of Dungeons & Dragons if they had.</p><p></p><p>What I think would best alleviate that confusion, would be for those so against an expression of Leadership in the class to first gain an understanding of what Leadership actually is, then look at how it's actually being applied.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 6734248, member: 59506"] I disagree. 4E did not "explicitly" state that it doesn't give you the ability to lead, it said you weren't necessarily the group leader; which is a different thing entirely. That is actually a pretty good representation of what real-life Leadership is. Leadership is not about telling people what to do. That would be Authority. It's a common misconception of those that don't understand what Leadership is. And [MENTION=5142]Aldarc[/MENTION] , that is not a pedantic differentiation. Leadership is one of the most misunderstood concepts. It was a deliberate decision as to why the Warlord we've been working on in the[I] W[I]arlording the Fighter[/I][/I] thread does not tell other characters what to do. The mechanical representation of Leadership is expressed through a group bonus. The Warlord's display of Leadership enables a group to function more synergistically. That's all. Practicing Leadership does not necessarily require one to be in charge. Exhibiting Leadership is not defined by telling others what to do. One does not need to be the[I] Leader of a Group [/I]in order to be a Leader or possess Leadership. You know that guy at work that just always seems to be "with it"? You know that girl at your job that everybody always goes to for advice when they have a work problem? You know that coworker that always seems to see beyond the noise and usually has the best idea for how to get something done? Those are Leaders. They aren't telling anybody what to do. They aren't necessarily in charge. But they most definitely display Leadership and function as Leaders. [B][I]That [/I][/B]is a Warlord. (...and Yes, it absolutely does need a better name!!!) I think it would have been the deathknell of Dungeons & Dragons if they had. What I think would best alleviate that confusion, would be for those so against an expression of Leadership in the class to first gain an understanding of what Leadership actually is, then look at how it's actually being applied. [/QUOTE]
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