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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 6734270" data-attributes="member: 5142">There has been a dearth of threads at least on ENWorld about these other archetypes. For the record, I greatly prefer 5e over 4e, though there were things about 4e that I liked, including the warlord. And I would like to see a good translation of the warlord, and one that incorporated its past as well: i.e. White Raven Discipline, Marshall, etc. *sigh* And there should be a place for the warlord class. I would personally like for there to be a place for such a class. Will people be completely happy with it? Probably not. But it would be nice if there was a legitimate attempt made that did satisfy a larger core of warlord fans in a manner that neither the two "surrogates" do. Probably less so. I am admittedly conflicted. It would be nice for the warlord name to remain, because, again, purposes of class traction and as a sign of good faith that a name change is not a subtle sign of edition warring or "appeasement." On the other hand, I would prefer something more apt to the archetype. If you would like to bring up "real life" then you would certainly find this debate to be pedantic differentiation, as the distinction between 'authority' and 'leadership' was not always crystal clear in the minds of historical writers, nobility, warriors, etc. Because there is not enough room in the rules for both to exist. Each potentially makes the other redundant. Quite simply, "There can be only one."</blockquote>

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