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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 6734544" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>That's not even what pedantry means. You're twisting things around and bending them so far out of shape that it's coming across like you're desperate to justify an untenable position. This is a specious argument.</p><p></p><p>Of course Leadership is a real-life concept. Despite D&D being a fantasy game, the majority of it is predicated upon real-life. Walking, running, resting, exploring, using skills, crafting, handling objects, carrying capacity, and on and on... They're all real-life concepts. The game is the embodiment of the question <em>"What would life be like if Magic and Monsters were real?"</em> Do we ignore the real-life implications or realities of these things? Of course not. The default assumption is that they work like real-life unless otherwise noted, so there's a common base of understanding among participants. Exceptions are tacked on as required, or as needed to fit the form of a game.</p><p></p><p>Leadership is a real-life thing, therefore the real-life concept of Leadership has bearing.</p><p></p><p>The fact is, the expression of Leadership I described is not Authoritative. What are your objections to what has been described?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ahh - I think things are becoming clearer. This is about you wanting a dedicated class and only a dedicated class, isn't it? Is that why you lash out with specious arguments and accusations of concerted conspiracies? Because your argument lacks an objective, logical premise? An argument other than <em>"that's not what I want so it shouldn't be allowed"</em>?</p><p></p><p>A Prestige Class is also a <strong><em>Class</em></strong>; and the Warlord is not just for you. </p><p></p><p>Sorry if a Prestige Class isn't the form you prefer, but it's really not your call whether people explore it or not, or whether it gets adopted or not. Not to mention that the arguments you've expressed are more likely to energize people to pursue a Prestige Class, rather than deter them...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 6734544, member: 59506"] That's not even what pedantry means. You're twisting things around and bending them so far out of shape that it's coming across like you're desperate to justify an untenable position. This is a specious argument. Of course Leadership is a real-life concept. Despite D&D being a fantasy game, the majority of it is predicated upon real-life. Walking, running, resting, exploring, using skills, crafting, handling objects, carrying capacity, and on and on... They're all real-life concepts. The game is the embodiment of the question [I]"What would life be like if Magic and Monsters were real?"[/I] Do we ignore the real-life implications or realities of these things? Of course not. The default assumption is that they work like real-life unless otherwise noted, so there's a common base of understanding among participants. Exceptions are tacked on as required, or as needed to fit the form of a game. Leadership is a real-life thing, therefore the real-life concept of Leadership has bearing. The fact is, the expression of Leadership I described is not Authoritative. What are your objections to what has been described? Ahh - I think things are becoming clearer. This is about you wanting a dedicated class and only a dedicated class, isn't it? Is that why you lash out with specious arguments and accusations of concerted conspiracies? Because your argument lacks an objective, logical premise? An argument other than [I]"that's not what I want so it shouldn't be allowed"[/I]? A Prestige Class is also a [B][I]Class[/I][/B]; and the Warlord is not just for you. Sorry if a Prestige Class isn't the form you prefer, but it's really not your call whether people explore it or not, or whether it gets adopted or not. Not to mention that the arguments you've expressed are more likely to energize people to pursue a Prestige Class, rather than deter them... [/QUOTE]
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