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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6734765" data-attributes="member: 996">There were enough things to cover 30 levels in it's only other incarnation.  Most classes have only a few things that are entirely unique to them.  Casters share many spells with other classes, multiple classes get Extra Attacks, and so forth.  Class like the Warlock and Sorcerer hang their 'uniqueness' on a different spell-casting mechanic.  If you were trying to model the warlord concept with /just/ a prestige class, spells would be out of the question, as they're antithetical to the class concept.   OTOH, PrCs that might be taken by a character with some levels in a Warlord full-class, and some levels in a caster, or that might be taken by a somewhat militant caster like a Valor Bard, Paladin, or War Cleric, might very reasonably have caster levels.I have to disagree, sorta.  The last thing we need is another inadequate, bordering on insulting, third-measures bowdlerized farce like that one battlemaster build /instead of/ a full Warlord class.But, once the Warlord is in, there is still plenty of room for sub-classes and PrCs that riff off it or lift a feature or two from it.  Just as the Wizard was in Next from the very beginning, and that didn't prevent the EK or AT from existing, the presence of the Warlord won't stop warlord-lite sub-classes or Warlord-adjacent PrCs from being added (either later or at the same time).</blockquote>