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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6736159" data-attributes="member: 996">In a way, the Bard was the prototypical PrC, it was in an appendix of the 1e PH, and required you take levels in fighter & thief before gaining your first level in Bard.  15 levels of pre-existing Warlord-ness, such that a mere 5 levels of PrC would give you a fully-fledged Warlord, is what I thought you were assuming. Sure, you could take 15 levels of Champion and 5 of some PrC.  You'd be all-martial, but won't be anything like a Warlord.  You are correct, nothing remotely like the Warlord could be squeezed into a 5-level PrC.  Even if you limit yourself to just minimally modeling one PH1 build there's just too much to it.  Just about anything you might accomplish by combining other classes with a PrC like that, you could probably do just by MCing Warlord.  But, PrCs a Warlord might take that could, like most PrCs, also be taken by other classes could have all sorts of potential...  "It's both impossible and undesireable to do that" is an honest evaluation of the idea.  However, there are specific warlord concepts that some folks find problematic that could work very well as PrCs.  High rank in a military hierarchy, requiring lots of literal experience (ie higher level), for instance, is right up the PrC mechanic's alley.That is a very different sort of question.  Part of the problem with applying that exercise to get a Warlord PrC is that the Warlord isn't some sort of gish class that's part Fighter, part something else.</blockquote>

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