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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6744600" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Y'know, I've read what both of you had to say on the topic - and, AFAICT, it's about the unfortunate connotations of the 4e 'Leader' role and the Warlord's abilities including 'Leadership' on some level.&nbsp; Aldarc wants to steer clear of 'leader' or 'leadership' as much as possible - it seems to me, even to the point of giving up appropriate Inspiring or 'command' based abilities (please correct me if I got that wrong or improperly shaded it) - thus avoiding the misunderstanding.&nbsp; El Mahdi seems to me to want to take the misrepresntations of the Warlord's 'leadership' abilities head-on, by emphasizing the distinction between Authority (a position as formal leader who gives orders and can have insubordination punished) which is not part of the class and Leadership (leadership skills, like inspiring and coordinating people), which is (again, correct me if I mis-understood you).</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6744600, member: 996"] Y'know, I've read what both of you had to say on the topic - and, AFAICT, it's about the unfortunate connotations of the 4e 'Leader' role and the Warlord's abilities including 'Leadership' on some level. Aldarc wants to steer clear of 'leader' or 'leadership' as much as possible - it seems to me, even to the point of giving up appropriate Inspiring or 'command' based abilities (please correct me if I got that wrong or improperly shaded it) - thus avoiding the misunderstanding. El Mahdi seems to me to want to take the misrepresntations of the Warlord's 'leadership' abilities head-on, by emphasizing the distinction between Authority (a position as formal leader who gives orders and can have insubordination punished) which is not part of the class and Leadership (leadership skills, like inspiring and coordinating people), which is (again, correct me if I mis-understood you). [/QUOTE]

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