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<blockquote data-quote="lutecius" data-source="post: 4261191" data-attributes="member: 60332">I've never heard of anyone who wanted to play a bard to be the party's cheerleader. It was either a flavour thing (be the cool skill guy or some flamboyant swashbuckler) or about casting spells without being too squishy (my case). That's despite being in effect the party's cheerleader during combat.Likewise, I believe one of the reasons the cleric was overpowered in 3e was to incite players to be the party's healer/buffer.I don't think &quot;playing support&quot; is a big incentive in itself and i'm afraid the warlord class will rather attract:A- tactical players who like to control all the pieces in a wargame (in that case, other players' characters)B- those who take the &quot;leader&quot; role literally and like to picture their character as some Leonidas knockoff or badass sergeant bossing other around.I find both types annoying.&nbsp;Amen. I thought I was the only one who saw that.Basing a whole class on this mechanic is way too repetitive. Warlord should have been just a Fighter or Paladin build.The name would actually work much better for a paragon path. And the &quot;inspiring champion&quot; theme fits the original meaning of Paladin better than &quot;holy warrior with spells&quot;.Damn roles.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lutecius, post: 4261191, member: 60332"] I've never heard of anyone who wanted to play a bard to be the party's cheerleader. It was either a flavour thing (be the cool skill guy or some flamboyant swashbuckler) or about casting spells without being too squishy (my case). That's [B]despite[/B] being in effect the party's cheerleader during combat. Likewise, I believe one of the reasons the cleric was overpowered in 3e was to incite players to be the party's healer/buffer. I don't think "playing support" is a big incentive in itself and i'm afraid the warlord class will rather attract: A- tactical players who like to control all the pieces in a wargame (in that case, other players' characters) B- those who take the "leader" role literally and like to picture their character as some Leonidas knockoff or badass sergeant bossing other around. I find both types annoying. Amen. I thought I was the only one who saw that. Basing a whole class on this mechanic is way too repetitive. Warlord should have been just a Fighter or Paladin build. The name would actually work much better for a paragon path. And the "inspiring champion" theme fits the original meaning of Paladin better than "holy warrior with spells". Damn roles. [/QUOTE]

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