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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4630528" data-attributes="member: 43019">Yep, and to do an interesting spin:Let's say that it takes a 5-PC group 20 successful hits to drop their enemy/ies (whoever those enemies are), and that those enem(y/ies) will do enough to 'permanently' drop someone every 2 rounds after the 5th (7th, 9th, 11th, 13th, and winning on the 15th round).Base assumption of 50% hit means that you get 2.5 hits per round in the first 6 rounds, 2 per in 7th and 8th, and in the 9th round you win (and maybe lose a 2nd person, depending on init)If you instead have only a 40% hit, you'd get 2 hits per round in the first 6 rounds, 1.6 in 7+8, 1.2 in 9+10, .8 in 11+12, .4 in 13 and 14... and Orcus is defeated with a single guy still standing a single hit from being truly dropped.In the first situation, a little bit of bad luck might drop another person or two, but it would be recoverable. In the second situation, even a smidge of bad luck is a TPK. Doesn't mean the 2nd is badwrongfun, but it does mean that when these kinds of threads come up in forums that the general response is 'No, it really is important' <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>