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<blockquote data-quote="Khoram" data-source="post: 6334883" data-attributes="member: 62942"><p>Uh ok. I used some stuff that isn't out yet (hirelings...) and you're complaining about stuff that isn't out yet (half-orcs...). All I have is the Basic Rules. Once more official stuff is out, maybe I'll change it, you know? But to complain about how I did things in a way that made sense to me because of what you think may be in non-published rules is counter-productive.</p><p></p><p>So on the one hand you are criticizing me because I took a crack at hirelings in a way that makes sense from a role-play perspective, then complain because they aren't as powerful as what might be in the official rules. I would rather have it be less powerful than overpowered.</p><p></p><p>I was hoping to open up dialogue. Instead you keep telling me it's too swinging (what does that mean?), it should be more like a cleric (I don't want a cleric-substitute, I want a fighter-esque leader of warriors), and that it's both too powerful and yet so restrictive it's underpowered. Then you capped it off with a description of your cleric-substitute. This isn't 4E; warlord doesn't necessarily have to be a "leader" role (as there aren't any "roles" defined in my copy of the Basic Rules...), d8, cleric-substitute class anymore.</p><p></p><p>Your first critique was very helpful - you pointed out I was using abilities that disrupted the intended action mechanic, so I changed that. </p><p></p><p>All enemies get free attacks - the intent of that was to dissuade the dishonorable breaking of the single combat. I'm open to suggestions on other ways of preventing abuse. </p><p></p><p>I didn't put this up as an act of self-gratification (though it's hard to see how you wouldn't say the same about 95% of the stuff posted on a homerule/homebrew/fan creation forum...). I put it up because I thought I had the kernel of an interesting warlord-type class based on a concept from popular historical fiction (rather than 4E's "pushin'-n-pullin' round the combat grid non-magical cleric wannabe"). You don't like it, fine, don't use it. I posted it in case someone else saw something that interested them. Is that ok?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khoram, post: 6334883, member: 62942"] Uh ok. I used some stuff that isn't out yet (hirelings...) and you're complaining about stuff that isn't out yet (half-orcs...). All I have is the Basic Rules. Once more official stuff is out, maybe I'll change it, you know? But to complain about how I did things in a way that made sense to me because of what you think may be in non-published rules is counter-productive. So on the one hand you are criticizing me because I took a crack at hirelings in a way that makes sense from a role-play perspective, then complain because they aren't as powerful as what might be in the official rules. I would rather have it be less powerful than overpowered. I was hoping to open up dialogue. Instead you keep telling me it's too swinging (what does that mean?), it should be more like a cleric (I don't want a cleric-substitute, I want a fighter-esque leader of warriors), and that it's both too powerful and yet so restrictive it's underpowered. Then you capped it off with a description of your cleric-substitute. This isn't 4E; warlord doesn't necessarily have to be a "leader" role (as there aren't any "roles" defined in my copy of the Basic Rules...), d8, cleric-substitute class anymore. Your first critique was very helpful - you pointed out I was using abilities that disrupted the intended action mechanic, so I changed that. All enemies get free attacks - the intent of that was to dissuade the dishonorable breaking of the single combat. I'm open to suggestions on other ways of preventing abuse. I didn't put this up as an act of self-gratification (though it's hard to see how you wouldn't say the same about 95% of the stuff posted on a homerule/homebrew/fan creation forum...). I put it up because I thought I had the kernel of an interesting warlord-type class based on a concept from popular historical fiction (rather than 4E's "pushin'-n-pullin' round the combat grid non-magical cleric wannabe"). You don't like it, fine, don't use it. I posted it in case someone else saw something that interested them. Is that ok? [/QUOTE]
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