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<blockquote data-quote="Mad Mac" data-source="post: 4520212" data-attributes="member: 27873"><p>Yes. You are in fact the only person on Earth who enjoys the Inspiring Warlord. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>  I don't think the Warlord problem, to the extent that one exists, is that it's a support class. People wouldn't be interested in the class to begin with they had no interest in boosting allies. It's just a matter of degree. </p><p></p><p>The Warlord is really, really hurting when he doesn't have any allies standing next to him to benefit from his powers. He also lacks the ability to benefit from the effects of most of his own abilities. Yes, he's a leader, but compare to the Cleric, who gets a good mix of healing/supporting powers, and stuff like Spiritual Weapon or Split the Sky, which exist soley to cause pain and suffering to his enemies. The Warlord is possibly too focused, to put it another way. </p><p></p><p>  And that hurts some peoples conception of the class, when they want to play the grizzled inspiring battle captain who urges his allies on while also busting skulls on the front line. It tarnishes the image a bit when that same character starts to feel (justified or not) that they can't actually fight their way out of a paper sack and are just cheerleaders wearing chain mail skirts rather than rough and ready military men. </p><p></p><p>  For what it's worth, I think the Tactical Warlord fits his image a bit better. His abilities are more unique and offensive/movement focused compared to the Cleric, and it's easy to see "the smart guy" as the skinny guy in back adjusting his spectacles while trying to get his team in position for the "Anguised Duck Ambush Alpha". Plus, Taclords can easy multiclass as Wizards for more battlefield control while still remaining in character. </p><p></p><p>  In any case, we're getting like 3 more Warlord builds in Martial Power, so perhaps the new options will make it easier for more players to build the type of Warlord they envision. </p><p></p><p>  In general though, support classes are always going to be less popular overall then, say, Strikers. That's just how it is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mad Mac, post: 4520212, member: 27873"] Yes. You are in fact the only person on Earth who enjoys the Inspiring Warlord. :p I don't think the Warlord problem, to the extent that one exists, is that it's a support class. People wouldn't be interested in the class to begin with they had no interest in boosting allies. It's just a matter of degree. The Warlord is really, really hurting when he doesn't have any allies standing next to him to benefit from his powers. He also lacks the ability to benefit from the effects of most of his own abilities. Yes, he's a leader, but compare to the Cleric, who gets a good mix of healing/supporting powers, and stuff like Spiritual Weapon or Split the Sky, which exist soley to cause pain and suffering to his enemies. The Warlord is possibly too focused, to put it another way. And that hurts some peoples conception of the class, when they want to play the grizzled inspiring battle captain who urges his allies on while also busting skulls on the front line. It tarnishes the image a bit when that same character starts to feel (justified or not) that they can't actually fight their way out of a paper sack and are just cheerleaders wearing chain mail skirts rather than rough and ready military men. For what it's worth, I think the Tactical Warlord fits his image a bit better. His abilities are more unique and offensive/movement focused compared to the Cleric, and it's easy to see "the smart guy" as the skinny guy in back adjusting his spectacles while trying to get his team in position for the "Anguised Duck Ambush Alpha". Plus, Taclords can easy multiclass as Wizards for more battlefield control while still remaining in character. In any case, we're getting like 3 more Warlord builds in Martial Power, so perhaps the new options will make it easier for more players to build the type of Warlord they envision. In general though, support classes are always going to be less popular overall then, say, Strikers. That's just how it is. [/QUOTE]
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