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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6658544" data-attributes="member: 996">They explore extreme builds.&nbsp; &nbsp;Yes, they do.&nbsp; And, the Warlord always had choices that could bestow temp hps as well as restore hps.&nbsp; He should lose neither.&nbsp;The warlord would have no spells - nor &quot;spells.&quot;&nbsp; No. The Warlord is not a DPR-only beatstick, there is no comparison.&nbsp;And this is different from the Cleric, how?&nbsp; Yes, any class stacks up well if you compare versatility to the base-line fighter.&nbsp; Because the fighter has none.&nbsp;Then every class is broken.&nbsp;Right there in the spell list.&nbsp; Every cleric has access to it.&nbsp;It's not.&nbsp; You're assuming fairly specific mechanics, there.&nbsp; You're assuming, strangely, that the Warlord would have a list of abilities each useable 1/day, which is nothing like what it had.&nbsp;&nbsp; You're also assuming that for one warlord to have an ability, they'd all have to have it, at first level.&nbsp; Also strange.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6658544, member: 996"] They explore extreme builds. Yes, they do. And, the Warlord always had choices that could bestow temp hps as well as restore hps. He should lose neither. The warlord would have no spells - nor "spells." No. The Warlord is not a DPR-only beatstick, there is no comparison. And this is different from the Cleric, how? Yes, any class stacks up well if you compare versatility to the base-line fighter. Because the fighter has none. Then every class is broken. Right there in the spell list. Every cleric has access to it. It's not. You're assuming fairly specific mechanics, there. You're assuming, strangely, that the Warlord would have a list of abilities each useable 1/day, which is nothing like what it had. You're also assuming that for one warlord to have an ability, they'd all have to have it, at first level. Also strange. [/QUOTE]

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