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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 6659849" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">Why would "outside of his origin story" matter? It's part of who he is. In his origin story he displays arcane knowledge (items, potions, etc.), spellcasting, using rituals, and even necromancy. All of which would not simply be covered by a feat. At a minimum it would require one level of Wizard. Incidentally, the first couple of levels of 5E are meant to be more "novice" characters; perfectly describing the Apprentice level of the Mouser.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">Much more than just the "odd trick"; and a background would not provide all that the Mouser knows and can do.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">I think far too often, many get their ideas of Fafhrd and the GrayMouser not from reading the books themselves, but from second hand sources(essays about the characters, homage stories, and unfortunately from D&D itself). Or at least, those secondary sources somehowtake on supremacy in their informing of the characters, rather than theoriginal stories.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">It’s funny how our memories can be so malleable and oft suspect.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">While the Mouser obviously favors a martial response and relying on hismartial skills in most situations, his arcane knowledge and ability is bothimplicit and explicit throughout the books. Outside of his origin story, his use of magic is quite rare, but I think that's more of a choice - having crossed the line into very dark magics - than it is his inability to use them.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">In the Mousers origin story (<em>TheUnholy Grail – 1962</em>), there is this:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">That was a spell, not a scroll - complete with verbal, somatic, and materialcomponents – a spell that the Mouser used to hide himself from the murderers ofhis master, after he had tried to kill the Duke responsible and was beatenwithin an inch of his life for the attempt.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">But then he goes on and crosses the line to Necromancy (and the section also implies the arcane knowledge he possesses):</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">Later, he uses necromantic sympathy magic and ritual magic to attack and kill the Duke:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'"></span></span></p><p></p><p>There are other references of Mouser using magic, though I can’t find the specificsections now. I vaguely remember one though,where the Mouser uses a divination ritual to seek information or guidance onwhat he is to do next.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 6659849, member: 59506"] [FONT=verdana] Why would "outside of his origin story" matter? It's part of who he is. In his origin story he displays arcane knowledge (items, potions, etc.), spellcasting, using rituals, and even necromancy. All of which would not simply be covered by a feat. At a minimum it would require one level of Wizard. Incidentally, the first couple of levels of 5E are meant to be more "novice" characters; perfectly describing the Apprentice level of the Mouser. Much more than just the "odd trick"; and a background would not provide all that the Mouser knows and can do. [/FONT][FONT=verdana]I think far too often, many get their ideas of Fafhrd and the GrayMouser not from reading the books themselves, but from second hand sources(essays about the characters, homage stories, and unfortunately from D&D itself). Or at least, those secondary sources somehowtake on supremacy in their informing of the characters, rather than theoriginal stories.[/FONT] [FONT=verdana]It’s funny how our memories can be so malleable and oft suspect.[/FONT] [FONT=verdana]While the Mouser obviously favors a martial response and relying on hismartial skills in most situations, his arcane knowledge and ability is bothimplicit and explicit throughout the books. Outside of his origin story, his use of magic is quite rare, but I think that's more of a choice - having crossed the line into very dark magics - than it is his inability to use them.[/FONT] [FONT=verdana]In the Mousers origin story ([I]TheUnholy Grail – 1962[/I]), there is this: [/FONT][SIZE=2][FONT=verdana] That was a spell, not a scroll - complete with verbal, somatic, and materialcomponents – a spell that the Mouser used to hide himself from the murderers ofhis master, after he had tried to kill the Duke responsible and was beatenwithin an inch of his life for the attempt. But then he goes on and crosses the line to Necromancy (and the section also implies the arcane knowledge he possesses): [/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][FONT=verdana] Later, he uses necromantic sympathy magic and ritual magic to attack and kill the Duke: [/FONT][/SIZE] There are other references of Mouser using magic, though I can’t find the specificsections now. I vaguely remember one though,where the Mouser uses a divination ritual to seek information or guidance onwhat he is to do next. [/QUOTE]
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