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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6672517" data-attributes="member: 996">On the 'underwhelming' side, then.&nbsp; You have a character who can be intimidating, persuasive, insightful, &amp;c - as long as he's in charge, otherwise, not so much.&nbsp; Or, you can have the character who's leadership talents help him out in a wider range of areas (because he invested in the various applicable skills), but paradoxically, gains virtually nothing from the Leadership trait.&nbsp; The former makes a lot more sense from the perspective of allocating chargen/level-up resources, so I'd expect to see a lot of it, and I'm afraid it'd make the 'leaders' seem a tad petulant, always needing to be 'leading' in order to be competent. &nbsp;&nbsp;Unless it can stack with or otherwise beat out Expertise, I don't see a big problem.Currently, if you define a 'leader' primarily as being particularly good at certain CHA &amp; WIS based checks, the best choices for an optimal Leader would Rogue and Bard due to Expertise giving them the highest possible checks.&nbsp; Presumably, you'd want to add a third class to that list, not have it be strictly inferior at leadership-type checks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6672517, member: 996"] On the 'underwhelming' side, then. You have a character who can be intimidating, persuasive, insightful, &c - as long as he's in charge, otherwise, not so much. Or, you can have the character who's leadership talents help him out in a wider range of areas (because he invested in the various applicable skills), but paradoxically, gains virtually nothing from the Leadership trait. The former makes a lot more sense from the perspective of allocating chargen/level-up resources, so I'd expect to see a lot of it, and I'm afraid it'd make the 'leaders' seem a tad petulant, always needing to be 'leading' in order to be competent. Unless it can stack with or otherwise beat out Expertise, I don't see a big problem. Currently, if you define a 'leader' primarily as being particularly good at certain CHA & WIS based checks, the best choices for an optimal Leader would Rogue and Bard due to Expertise giving them the highest possible checks. Presumably, you'd want to add a third class to that list, not have it be strictly inferior at leadership-type checks. [/QUOTE]

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