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<blockquote data-quote="bert1000" data-source="post: 6677215" data-attributes="member: 29013">My 2cents.&nbsp;&nbsp; As someone who liked the 4e Warlord, I am on board with a&nbsp; 5e version and would love to see fan-made versions.&nbsp;&nbsp; As far as&nbsp; healing is concerned, I have no problem with having Warlord healing work&nbsp; mechanically the same as magical healing and just fluffing it&nbsp; differently.&nbsp;&nbsp; That said, 4e is not 5e, so I really don't care if there&nbsp; is another mechanical representation.&nbsp;&nbsp; The end result should be&nbsp; something like:Player 1:&nbsp; Do you think we need more healing in the party?&nbsp;&nbsp; We have a Fighter, Wizard, and Warlock.Player 2:&nbsp; Nah, I'm going to play a Warlord.Player 1:&nbsp; Ok, sounds good.I went back and looked at the 4e Warlord class abilities and daily&nbsp; powers to see what they did and came up with the following.&nbsp;&nbsp; It's not&nbsp; scientific by any means but gives a good sense of what the 4e Warlord&nbsp; could do.Note that the Warlord could usually do one of these things AND hit&nbsp; someone with a sword on the same turn.&nbsp;&nbsp; Also many of these powers were&nbsp; &quot;multiple target&quot; and many buffs and debuffs lasted &quot;until the end of&nbsp; the encounter&quot;.The interesting thing about the list is that most of the abilities have&nbsp; some version in 5e already (menacing strike, commanders, second wind,&nbsp; etc.).&nbsp;&nbsp; The 5e versions tend to be weak because they are built on the&nbsp; Fighter chassis.&nbsp; &nbsp; If you want to build the Warlord on the Fighter&nbsp; chassis, I think you need to be able to trade attacks for uses of&nbsp; powerful abilities.&nbsp;&nbsp; E.g., attack once and burn &quot;3 attacks&quot; for the&nbsp; ability to grant 3 allies an off turn free attack with advantage.Healing and condition negation:Minor action heal HPsRegain HPsGrant temporary HPsGrant saving throw (off turn or extra)&nbsp;Positioning:Repositioning (shift, pushing, pulling, sliding) of self, allies, and enemies&nbsp;Conditions on enemy:Restrict movement of enemyCondition applied – weakened, dazed, prone, stun, etc.Impose vulnerabilityPenalty to saving throwsOngoing damage applied&nbsp;Extra actions for allies:Extra off turn attacks for alliesExtra off turn move actions for alliesMove enemy and force opportunity attacks from allies as enemy goes by&nbsp;Buffing of allies and self:Bonus to initiativeBonus to perception / insightBonus to defensesBonus to damageBonus to attackBonus on a chargeIn exchange for being more vulnerable, grant bonusesIncrease speed of alliesIncrease critical rangeAllow a reroll on attackRefresh encounter powers&nbsp;Other:Stances that deal auto damage off turn&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 

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[QUOTE="bert1000, post: 6677215, member: 29013"] My 2cents. As someone who liked the 4e Warlord, I am on board with a 5e version and would love to see fan-made versions. As far as healing is concerned, I have no problem with having Warlord healing work mechanically the same as magical healing and just fluffing it differently. That said, 4e is not 5e, so I really don't care if there is another mechanical representation. The end result should be something like: Player 1: Do you think we need more healing in the party? We have a Fighter, Wizard, and Warlock. Player 2: Nah, I'm going to play a Warlord. Player 1: Ok, sounds good. I went back and looked at the 4e Warlord class abilities and daily powers to see what they did and came up with the following. It's not scientific by any means but gives a good sense of what the 4e Warlord could do. Note that the Warlord could usually do one of these things AND hit someone with a sword on the same turn. Also many of these powers were "multiple target" and many buffs and debuffs lasted "until the end of the encounter". The interesting thing about the list is that most of the abilities have some version in 5e already (menacing strike, commanders, second wind, etc.). The 5e versions tend to be weak because they are built on the Fighter chassis. If you want to build the Warlord on the Fighter chassis, I think you need to be able to trade attacks for uses of powerful abilities. E.g., attack once and burn "3 attacks" for the ability to grant 3 allies an off turn free attack with advantage. [B]Healing and condition negation:[/B] Minor action heal HPs Regain HPs Grant temporary HPs Grant saving throw (off turn or extra) [B]Positioning:[/B] Repositioning (shift, pushing, pulling, sliding) of self, allies, and enemies [B]Conditions on enemy:[/B] Restrict movement of enemy Condition applied – weakened, dazed, prone, stun, etc. Impose vulnerability Penalty to saving throws Ongoing damage applied [B]Extra actions for allies:[/B] Extra off turn attacks for allies Extra off turn move actions for allies Move enemy and force opportunity attacks from allies as enemy goes by [B]Buffing of allies and self:[/B] Bonus to initiative Bonus to perception / insight Bonus to defenses Bonus to damage Bonus to attack Bonus on a charge In exchange for being more vulnerable, grant bonuses Increase speed of allies Increase critical range Allow a reroll on attack Refresh encounter powers [B]Other:[/B] Stances that deal auto damage off turn [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]

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