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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 6691238" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>Okay. I'm still working on balancing out the class progression (what level do you get which ability at, etc...), but I'm about 90% complete on a first draft. I've been working on a stand-alone class first. Once that's locked down, I'll work on the other ways to possibly bring a Warlord to the game (revamp the Battlemaster archetype with the ideas generated here, conversion of the Warlord class into Feats that any class could take, etc.).</p><p></p><p>Please read and provide feedback. Remember this is being done with the purpose of informing WotC about the feasibility of such a class or build in 5E, and hopefully spur them to develop one for UA - and maybe even an "official" version for AL play. If you are not a fan of the Warlord, or are resolutely against the very existence of a Warlord in 5E in any form, your feedback <em>can</em> still be helpful. Making the Warlord class as workable as possible for as many players and DM's as possible can only help further the goal of getting a 5E Warlord. However, if you're only interested in expressing your dislike yet again, or even actively trying to derail the process, your comments are not welcome. The argument over the premise of a Warlord is over. The lines have been clearly drawn. There's nothing constructive to be gained from continuing that argument. What's at question now is how to actualize mechanics that support the premise of a Warlord. Hopefully we're on the right track...</p><p></p><p>WotC: You can freely use any of these ideas - assuming they're good enough to use - or alter them as you deem necessary. The point of this is that 5E needs a Warlord, and the Battlemaster doesn't adequately fulfill the concept.</p><p></p><p>Here's the class abilities so far:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=5435" target="_blank">fuindordm</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=996" target="_blank">Tony Vargas</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=67338" target="_blank">GMforPowergamers</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=22779" target="_blank">Hussar</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6788732" target="_blank">cbwjm</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6796566" target="_blank">epithet</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6689464" target="_blank">MoonSong(Kaiilurker)</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=29013" target="_blank">bert1000</a></u></strong></em> [MENTION=6790260]EzekielRaiden[/MENTION] @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6696971" target="_blank">Manbearcat</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6775000" target="_blank">Uchawi</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6774887" target="_blank">Ashkelon</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6779717" target="_blank">Eric V</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=37579" target="_blank">Jester Canuck</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=49017" target="_blank">Bluenose</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=63508" target="_blank">Minigiant</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2067" target="_blank">I'm A Banana</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6779310" target="_blank">aramis erak</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=14391" target="_blank">Warbringer</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=53176" target="_blank">Leatherhead</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=31506" target="_blank">ehren37</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=1702" target="_blank">Winterthorn</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6777454" target="_blank">TheHobgoblin</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=87792" target="_blank">Neonchameleon</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=11821" target="_blank">Obryn</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=48965" target="_blank">Imaro</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6691958" target="_blank">nomotog</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6750235" target="_blank">Ashrym</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6779" target="_blank">The_Gneech</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=7635" target="_blank">Remathilis</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=5868" target="_blank">Olgar Shiverstone</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=15700" target="_blank">Sacrosanct</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6778088" target="_blank">Gimul</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=8547" target="_blank">Twiggly the Gnome</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=12731" target="_blank">CapnZapp</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=82779" target="_blank">MechaPilot</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=40393" target="_blank">kerbarian</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=93321" target="_blank">Psikerlord#</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2629" target="_blank">jgsugden</a></u></strong></em> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=7006" target="_blank">DEFCON 1</a></u></strong></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 6691238, member: 59506"] Okay. I'm still working on balancing out the class progression (what level do you get which ability at, etc...), but I'm about 90% complete on a first draft. I've been working on a stand-alone class first. Once that's locked down, I'll work on the other ways to possibly bring a Warlord to the game (revamp the Battlemaster archetype with the ideas generated here, conversion of the Warlord class into Feats that any class could take, etc.). Please read and provide feedback. Remember this is being done with the purpose of informing WotC about the feasibility of such a class or build in 5E, and hopefully spur them to develop one for UA - and maybe even an "official" version for AL play. If you are not a fan of the Warlord, or are resolutely against the very existence of a Warlord in 5E in any form, your feedback [I]can[/I] still be helpful. Making the Warlord class as workable as possible for as many players and DM's as possible can only help further the goal of getting a 5E Warlord. However, if you're only interested in expressing your dislike yet again, or even actively trying to derail the process, your comments are not welcome. The argument over the premise of a Warlord is over. The lines have been clearly drawn. There's nothing constructive to be gained from continuing that argument. What's at question now is how to actualize mechanics that support the premise of a Warlord. Hopefully we're on the right track... WotC: You can freely use any of these ideas - assuming they're good enough to use - or alter them as you deem necessary. The point of this is that 5E needs a Warlord, and the Battlemaster doesn't adequately fulfill the concept. Here's the class abilities so far: @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=5435"]fuindordm[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=996"]Tony Vargas[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=67338"]GMforPowergamers[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=22779"]Hussar[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6788732"]cbwjm[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6796566"]epithet[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6689464"]MoonSong(Kaiilurker)[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=29013"]bert1000[/URL][/U][/B][/I] [MENTION=6790260]EzekielRaiden[/MENTION] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6696971"]Manbearcat[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6775000"]Uchawi[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6774887"]Ashkelon[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6779717"]Eric V[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582"]pemerton[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=37579"]Jester Canuck[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=49017"]Bluenose[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=63508"]Minigiant[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2067"]I'm A Banana[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6779310"]aramis erak[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=14391"]Warbringer[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=53176"]Leatherhead[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=31506"]ehren37[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=1702"]Winterthorn[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6777454"]TheHobgoblin[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=87792"]Neonchameleon[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=11821"]Obryn[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=48965"]Imaro[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6691958"]nomotog[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6750235"]Ashrym[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6779"]The_Gneech[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=7635"]Remathilis[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=5868"]Olgar Shiverstone[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=15700"]Sacrosanct[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6778088"]Gimul[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=8547"]Twiggly the Gnome[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=12731"]CapnZapp[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=82779"]MechaPilot[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=40393"]kerbarian[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=93321"]Psikerlord#[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2629"]jgsugden[/URL][/U][/B][/I] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=7006"]DEFCON 1[/URL][/U][/B][/I] [/QUOTE]
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