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[Warlords] Should D&D be tied to D&D Worlds?
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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6146753" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>It's only really verboten to do it <em>really fast</em>, if HP is meat. AKA: the spike. I've got barbarians with regen and temp HP spam and second winds and ignoring damage and all sorts of other ways for non-magical characters to defend the party with equal or greater capacity than the spike-healing cleric. I appreciate magical healing having a distinct character, and for me, that's the spike. Really, that's mostly about keeping the mechanics as distinct as the flavor: magic is a "give me what I want right now" button. </p><p></p><p>In the context with my convo with NC, he was advocating for non-magical spike healing specifically, and for that, you can't have HP-as-meat. But other types of non-magical defense and healing generally work pretty fine -- I can't think of many forms of defense that don't work just fine as non-magical with HP-as-meat, with the exception of the spike, because "<strong>I</strong> remove <strong>your</strong> wounds instantly" isn't something that's very believable.</p><p></p><p>But "I ignore my wounds" or "I help bandage yours" or whatever is pretty fine. Hell, I'm cool with the 4e skald, generally, and that IS non-magical spike healing, just a little re-worked. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not about to tell people what they should or shouldn't want, and as I've mentioned upthread, if "THERE MUST BE A WARLORD CLASS" is a line in the sand for enough of WotC's potential market, they should probably just do that, if only to try and appease the unpleasable fanbase. But that's a potential marketing/business reason, not a good design reason. </p><p></p><p>A warlord class isn't the only place where non-magical spike healing would matter, anyway. Plenty of settings and styles would benefit from that, regardless of if they included that one class or not. Disentangling it from the class makes it a lot more flexible, while still allowing those who liked that aspect to tap into it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6146753, member: 2067"] It's only really verboten to do it [I]really fast[/i], if HP is meat. AKA: the spike. I've got barbarians with regen and temp HP spam and second winds and ignoring damage and all sorts of other ways for non-magical characters to defend the party with equal or greater capacity than the spike-healing cleric. I appreciate magical healing having a distinct character, and for me, that's the spike. Really, that's mostly about keeping the mechanics as distinct as the flavor: magic is a "give me what I want right now" button. In the context with my convo with NC, he was advocating for non-magical spike healing specifically, and for that, you can't have HP-as-meat. But other types of non-magical defense and healing generally work pretty fine -- I can't think of many forms of defense that don't work just fine as non-magical with HP-as-meat, with the exception of the spike, because "[B]I[/B] remove [B]your[/B] wounds instantly" isn't something that's very believable. But "I ignore my wounds" or "I help bandage yours" or whatever is pretty fine. Hell, I'm cool with the 4e skald, generally, and that IS non-magical spike healing, just a little re-worked. I'm not about to tell people what they should or shouldn't want, and as I've mentioned upthread, if "THERE MUST BE A WARLORD CLASS" is a line in the sand for enough of WotC's potential market, they should probably just do that, if only to try and appease the unpleasable fanbase. But that's a potential marketing/business reason, not a good design reason. A warlord class isn't the only place where non-magical spike healing would matter, anyway. Plenty of settings and styles would benefit from that, regardless of if they included that one class or not. Disentangling it from the class makes it a lot more flexible, while still allowing those who liked that aspect to tap into it. [/QUOTE]
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