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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6147419" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>I was going to jump in there and mention Phantasmal Killer effectively causing "Fear Damage" and against a Fortitude (?) Save at that.</p><p></p><p>Also, having odd interactions with the HP as meat paradigm is the entire Shadow Conjuration line of spells which all bring forth illusory phantasms whose touch becomes "quasi-real" if believed and almost fully unreal if disbelieved. These save vs WIll.</p><p></p><p>Of note is that neither of the two above were mechanically fitted to the 3.x subdual system for HP ablation, which confines temporary damage (which presumably "fear" or phantasm" damage would be once you have confirmed, by way of your companion testimony or your own reasoning, that the illusory effects were only present in your mind) to its own domain (with its own rules for quick-recovery).</p><p></p><p>Finally, we have the fact that 3.x, the only D&D that angled to be a legitimate process-sim experience, siloed its poisons and diseases away from the HP system (in order to move all of those wonky 1st order interactions to 2nd and 3rd order) in the way of ability damage as the 1st order effect. Of course, this carries the 2nd order effect of interaction with Constitution modifier to HPs on the poisons and diseases that diminish Constitution (thereby diminiishing total and current HP pool). Then that begs the question (which is another at the heart of the discussion) precisely what the Constitution complement to HPs is. Clearly its not "more meat" as size, girth, density is not gained in proportion to Constitution complement. How about the vague (yet functional) "physical resolve" which can represent any number of things from the runner's drive to carry one once you hit the calorie wall to a cancer patient's will (turning into a placebo) to refuse a doctor's terminal prognosis and thusly living well beyond those allotted years to playing/fighting on through a sprained ankle or non-terminal/ambulatory injury.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6147419, member: 6696971"] I was going to jump in there and mention Phantasmal Killer effectively causing "Fear Damage" and against a Fortitude (?) Save at that. Also, having odd interactions with the HP as meat paradigm is the entire Shadow Conjuration line of spells which all bring forth illusory phantasms whose touch becomes "quasi-real" if believed and almost fully unreal if disbelieved. These save vs WIll. Of note is that neither of the two above were mechanically fitted to the 3.x subdual system for HP ablation, which confines temporary damage (which presumably "fear" or phantasm" damage would be once you have confirmed, by way of your companion testimony or your own reasoning, that the illusory effects were only present in your mind) to its own domain (with its own rules for quick-recovery). Finally, we have the fact that 3.x, the only D&D that angled to be a legitimate process-sim experience, siloed its poisons and diseases away from the HP system (in order to move all of those wonky 1st order interactions to 2nd and 3rd order) in the way of ability damage as the 1st order effect. Of course, this carries the 2nd order effect of interaction with Constitution modifier to HPs on the poisons and diseases that diminish Constitution (thereby diminiishing total and current HP pool). Then that begs the question (which is another at the heart of the discussion) precisely what the Constitution complement to HPs is. Clearly its not "more meat" as size, girth, density is not gained in proportion to Constitution complement. How about the vague (yet functional) "physical resolve" which can represent any number of things from the runner's drive to carry one once you hit the calorie wall to a cancer patient's will (turning into a placebo) to refuse a doctor's terminal prognosis and thusly living well beyond those allotted years to playing/fighting on through a sprained ankle or non-terminal/ambulatory injury. [/QUOTE]
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