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<blockquote data-quote="Mirtek" data-source="post: 4274127" data-attributes="member: 40810"><p>it is a class for Wisdom clerics rather than Stengthr clerics.</p><p></p><p>That someone with lower Wis can also get benefits from it still doesn't give him as much benefit as someone with a high score in the stat it's designed for.</p><p></p><p>Such a fighter most likely has Str as first stat and Dex as second stats (to get the fun heavy blade OA feats), thus his wis will only be his third stat.</p><p></p><p>So what would he get: +1 to AC, 1 reroll and one encounter and one daily who are not only based on Wisdom, but based on Wisdom and use an implement. Thus he will not only hit less often because of his low Wisdom, he will also miss more often because of the lack of an "state of the art" implement (or he buys one and thus has less money for his primary magic items).</p><p></p><p>The dependance on an implement, even more than the dependance on Wis, is the reason why I come to the conclusion that this PC is not good for melee clerics and melee fighters in general.</p><p></p><p>There's not so much reason for a fighter to care about Wis. It improves his hit chance or OAs, however his combat challenge doesn't even grant OAs but normal attacks. And making the most of OA requires a rather high Dex score, so it all leads to Str primary, Dex secondary and at best Wis would be tertiary (if this place is not taken by Con)</p><p></p><p>As a matter of fact, the main reason for a high Wis score would be the Pit Fighter paragon path (which is really nice, but then you can't go Warpriest).</p><p></p><p>Just judging from the name I thought the warpriest would be the best path for melee clerics, yet the path has not a single melee attack (the angelic avenger is the only paragon path with a str based melee attack)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mirtek, post: 4274127, member: 40810"] it is a class for Wisdom clerics rather than Stengthr clerics. That someone with lower Wis can also get benefits from it still doesn't give him as much benefit as someone with a high score in the stat it's designed for. Such a fighter most likely has Str as first stat and Dex as second stats (to get the fun heavy blade OA feats), thus his wis will only be his third stat. So what would he get: +1 to AC, 1 reroll and one encounter and one daily who are not only based on Wisdom, but based on Wisdom and use an implement. Thus he will not only hit less often because of his low Wisdom, he will also miss more often because of the lack of an "state of the art" implement (or he buys one and thus has less money for his primary magic items). The dependance on an implement, even more than the dependance on Wis, is the reason why I come to the conclusion that this PC is not good for melee clerics and melee fighters in general. There's not so much reason for a fighter to care about Wis. It improves his hit chance or OAs, however his combat challenge doesn't even grant OAs but normal attacks. And making the most of OA requires a rather high Dex score, so it all leads to Str primary, Dex secondary and at best Wis would be tertiary (if this place is not taken by Con) As a matter of fact, the main reason for a high Wis score would be the Pit Fighter paragon path (which is really nice, but then you can't go Warpriest). Just judging from the name I thought the warpriest would be the best path for melee clerics, yet the path has not a single melee attack (the angelic avenger is the only paragon path with a str based melee attack) [/QUOTE]
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