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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shalewind" data-source="post: 522657" data-attributes="member: 6146">Okay, I’ve been waiting for a rules set (house or otherwise) that deals with the big issues of nations: War and Populace.Now this isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. I understand that. If wars to you are above the heroes, that’s fine. I like the occasion campaign where wars are the focus, nations are in the balance, and it takes those cunning generals to save the world. I’ve used house rule after suggestion and nothing has every given me what I really wanted.There are a number of demographic sites and house rules sets out there, so I’m not really all that concerned about those. I’ve got my own opinions as well.What I’m really looking for is running nations/estates, war, mass combat, and fort/siege warfare. There have been a few threads on these issues, but no one seems to have any really good source material.Angramainyu’s Battlefield: d20 is really awesome, but a little math/calculation intensive. (see <a href="http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20323" target="_blank">http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20323</a>)The DMG’s basics are nice for on the fly stuff, but not really a good source for a campaign focus.I’ve flipped through a lot of the old Birthright stuff, and found SOME of it good. But I don’t have a lot of access to the material so I can’t get a good opinion.I don’t own the Stronghold guide. I’ve heard good and bad.And, I have given up hope on Eden Odyssey’s “Fields of Blood: The Book of War” whose release date has gone from 2001 to 2002 to TBA.So I ask: what do all of you fans of war use? Are there any out there that like this mixed in with their heroic fantasy. (Don’t tell me to go play Warhammer, 3E has far more of what I want). If you have done this, what do you use? Give flames or advice as you see fit <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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