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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5031373" data-attributes="member: 80487">Yeah, can't be anything so elaborate in ol' Grimtooth's eh? I mean, never mind the lack of data for a 4e dice-fest -- there are NO game mechanics at all!&quot;Top level magic-users are perhaps the most powerful characters in the game, but it is a long, hard road to the top, and to begin with they are weak, so survival is often the question, unless fighters protect the low-level magical types until they have worked up.&quot; -- a long sentence from Men &amp; Magic, page 6.The situation was well known, and indeed by design, right from the start.A couple of pages later, we find &quot;Halflings: Should any player wish to be one, he will be limited to the Fighting-Man class as a halfling. Halflings cannot progress beyond the 4th level (Hero), but they will have magic-resistance equal to dwarves (add four levels for saving throws), and they will have deadly accuracy with missiles as detailed in CHAINMAIL.&quot;Is there any suggestion that a halfling hero is in any way the equal of a human wizard? No; they are clearly unequal (except for a couple of saving throw categories). Does it follow that the game is unbalanced?No more than it follows that chess is unbalanced because a pawn is not on par with a queen.Note: Wizard in pre-2e sets is a magic-user level title gained at &quot;name&quot; (in Original or Advanced, 11th) level&nbsp;&nbsp; -- so there is no such thing as a &quot;low-level&quot; wizard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5031373, member: 80487"] Yeah, can't be anything so elaborate in ol' [I]Grimtooth's[/I] eh? I mean, never mind the lack of data for a 4e dice-fest -- there are NO game mechanics at all! "Top level magic-users are perhaps the most powerful characters in the game, but it is a long, hard road to the top, and to begin with they are weak, so survival is often the question, unless fighters protect the low-level magical types until they have worked up." -- a long sentence from [I]Men & Magic[/I], page 6. The situation was well known, and indeed by design, right from the start. A couple of pages later, we find "[B]Halflings:[/B] Should any player wish to be one, he will be limited to the Fighting-Man class as a halfling. Halflings cannot progress beyond the 4th level (Hero), but they will have magic-resistance equal to dwarves (add four levels for saving throws), and they will have deadly accuracy with missiles as detailed in CHAINMAIL." Is there any suggestion that a halfling hero is in any way the equal of a human wizard? No; they are clearly unequal (except for a couple of saving throw categories). Does it follow that the game is unbalanced? No more than it follows that chess is unbalanced because a pawn is not on par with a queen. Note: [b]Wizard[/b] in pre-2e sets is a [i]magic-user[/i] level title gained at "name" (in Original or Advanced, 11th) level -- so there is no such thing as a "low-level" wizard. [/QUOTE]

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