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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 5034715" data-attributes="member: 29398">A few things...Minor nitpick: Isn't a Thief's backstrike damage (with a longsword) defined as 1d8 x 2 rather than 2d8? From 28+ years of these games (all 1e-based), these are the classes of the 10 characters with the longest adventuring careers (measured by number of adventures):1. Assassin (!)2. Magic-user3. Fighter4. Cleric5. Fighter6. Cleric7. Magic-user8. Magic-user/Druid*9. Fighter/Thief10. Illusionist* - probably impossible using 1e RAW; however, we're a lot more flexible with allowable multi-class combinations.3-and-a-half of the top 10 look like wizard-types to me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  And 1-and-a-half are rogue-types...A highly salient point.  The assumed-at-design-level party makeup and turnover rate in 1e is vastly different than in 3-4e; obviously, this affects the end-product game system.  1e assumed a large party, with characters joining, leaving, dying, retiring, etc. on a somewhat regular basis.  3e and 4e both assume a small tight party that as far as possible keeps the same members.Part of this runs into an even deeper 1e assumption: that the players in a given campaign might also not remain constant, and the campaign might outlast any one of them (except, of course, the DM).  3-4e seem to expect that the players who start a campaign will stick around for the year or two it takes to finish it.In my own experience I've noticed a huge difference between what I call "linear" campaigns (one continuing party, usually because the DM will not or cannot run a second game, sometimes with "lockstep" mechanics as noted by Ariosto) and multi-party campaigns; the party dynamics in the linear ones are sometimes quite contrived, and in some cases stilted, as if a character does not fit with the party there is nowhere else for it to be played.  The multi-party campaigns seem more fluid; turnover - and thus, in-party change - can be achieved simply by characters switching parties.The rules of all editions so far have been designed for the linear campaign type.  Sometime, I'd love to see a DMG delve into ideas on how to manage a multi-party campaign.I'm rambling, so if anything above does not parse please let me know and I'll try again. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Lanefan</blockquote>

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