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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hereticus" data-source="post: 4759652" data-attributes="member: 83093">Alot of good role play opportunities come about with creative use of spells.Please, that's not what I said.This is not an edition war post, but I believe that your reply has forced my hand in posting some differences.1) Casting a ten minute ritual means that they will almost never be used during an encounter.2) Read through the level one through three spells, there are so many good spells that are perfect for non-combat situations.I have played a mostly a Wizard in 4.0E, and have made extremely good use of cantrips, I love that system. Perhaps a great fix for 4.0E would be to have a tiered level of cantrips available to spell casters that improve with level.My favorite ritual by far is Make Whole, and it is only first level. My eladrin wizard joined the group as "The Mechanic", offering to fix anything that was broken. In town there were so many role playing opportunities using that angle. But that is only one spell, and it got old soon. We need more cantrips and rituals like that.Have you ever gone fishing on a boat using the Thunder Wave at-will spell? Do not cast it from the front of the boat unless your intent is to sink it.</blockquote>