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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 7696892" data-attributes="member: 19675">Unless they are actually using magic to aid the process, the Dwarves are still limited by the known physics of forgecraft.  They can't make the ores heat faster, hotter or separate into their various elements more rapidly.  The metal will quench at a set rate.  It will take a certain amount of time to repeatedly hammer and fold the blade in order to get the optimal distribution of carbon (especially Carbon nanotubes), tungsten, vanadium and other trace elements within the steel- plus whatever it is that makes the alloy called Mithril.That isn't about skill, that's physics.  Physics doesn't care if you're man or dwarf.  Skill doesn't create physics-defying shortcuts.Reread what I wrote, Maxperson.  You are either missing my point or deliberately misrepresenting it.To be 100% clear: I. Am. Not. Asserting. Dwarves. Can't. Make. Powerful. Magic. Items.  Not at all.What I am saying is that there is zero evidence in the novels that they made a buttload of them.You still don't get it.  The overall plot of LotR is Middle Earth's facing of an Extinction Level Event.This is their big meteor coming to hit the planet, and everyone has to work together to make the big super nuclear missile (or missiles) to knock the thing off of its collision trajectory.  If the nukes fail, everyone dies, so there is no point in holding anything back.  So nobody does.  The contingencies in such stories are never "we'll fire our own withheld and secretly better missiles after yours fail because we are so awesome we don't need your help".  It's always having bunkers where they hope someone will survive the impact.Just like the humans, hobbits & everyone else in Middle Earth, the elves and dwarves are screwed if the Company of the Ring fails.  If Sauron wins, there won't be a bunker deep enough.  There is no point in not supplying elven mail to any of the 9 it will fit.  There is no reason for them not to give/loan powerful magic weapons to those who will be facing Sauron...if they have it to give.Yet not even Gimli and Legolas have anything resembling a significant magic weapon at the quest's inception.This is a strong implication against the ubiquity of magic such as you are asserting.Support this claim with quotes, please.Support this claim with quotes, please.</blockquote>

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