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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7696993">No, it is far more likely that *I* am correct!!!!  Wait...that's not really a useful argument, is it?  You need to learn the difference between blue sky conjecture and defensible argument.How fast can the Eagles fly?  At 50 miles an hour it would take an hour or so, assuming they came in from due north of Mt. Doom.  How long before Sauron noticed?  How long before he guessed what they were up to?News flash: when nobody is wearing the Ring, he can't detect it.Ah, ok.  I'm glad to see you are abandoning the super-silly weather argument and falling back on this time-tested one.  Much harder to argue against it, of course.  Other than that if that was really the reason (instead of simple narrative fiat by the author) then presumably somebody would have suggested it at the Council of Elrond, at which point Elrond or Gandalf would have explained the cosmology.  But that didn't happen.  Anyway, I don't really want to debate this much improved argument.Oh, drat, we're back to the "eagles would be detected and electrocuted" line of...um...I hate to say "reasoning".The very presence of a Dunadan and a Maia is going to be a beacon, regardless of how physically stealthy they are.  Especially if either of them actually uses any of their abilities to, you know, fend off orcs or something.Boromir was "undoubtedly" taught how to be sneaky?  As a scion of Gondor??!?!!?  Are you maybe confusing the line of Stewards with a clan of ninja from another milieu?And yet you think that Eagles...silent hunters...can't be stealthy.  You know, fly low, hug the terrain?  For only an hour, rather than days on end?  Question for you: do you really believe what you are arguing, or is this maybe a case of "Well, I said it on the Internet so now I have dig in and refuse to budge."  'Cause this is one of the screwiest things I've read lately.</blockquote>

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