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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7697009">You know, I really have to respond to this as well.  Your answer here is pretty much why I've lost interest in discussing this with you (and why the Internet in general is a cesspit of blather).  You've been making an argument that they didn't simply ask the Eagles to carry Frodo to Mount Doom because Sauron would have become instantly aware of the Eagle and cast a high level Lightning Bolt spell from 40 miles away.  I've been saying that doesn't make any sense.  You offer plausible conjecture, and then state as fact that this is obviously more true than other plausible conjecture.  How is that useful?Then you introduce a new-old argument (new for you, older than the hills) that the reason is because the Eagles are prohibited from interfering in the conflicts in Middle Earth.  Ok; I think that argument is unnecessary but it's not silly.  And I'll accept it as a better argument.  Then again I'm not suggesting that the Eagles should have gone, or that the fact they didn't go breaks the plot, or whatever.  I'm just saying that "Eagles flying far more risky than Hobbits walking" is crazy.  So I'll cede the point about servants of Manwe and not start a second surreal debate with you.  And how do you respond?  You immediately want to know if you've won.So not only do you not seem to understand what you're debating about, but you can't even accept a ceded point.  Which suggests to me you might also be incapable of acknowledging a valid point, because in your world that might be tantamount to admitting defeat.An attitude which is apparently a contagious disease on the Internet, and a source of endless frustration for those of us who...even if sometimes we get snarky and enjoy debating with the gloves off...are also willing to say, "Oh, hey, that was a good point.  I'll have to rethink this."  An attitude of open inquiry basically never gets reciprocated.  Without naming names (because doing so would finally rouse the moderators from their unwatchful slumber) some of the most prolific posters here (and in RPG sites in general; saying something about this population) are especially guilty of this attitude. And some have mastered the art of "plausibly deniable denigration", flying inches below the radar of the TOS.I, on the other hand, call spades spades and frequently get tsk-tsk'd by the mods for it.What I wouldn't give for a forum like ElitistJerks, where "moderation" is anything but.  If anybody out there wants to start such a forum let me know and I'll be a loyal...and courteous...participant.Yeah, I can be a jerk in my posts, too. I'm human. But I try (I may not be perfect) to only respond aggressively to anti-social attitude, not to incorrect facts or divergent opinion.   Yes, I "white knight".  Funny that it's a pejorative around here.</blockquote>

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