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Was Gandalf Just A 5th Level Magic User?
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<blockquote data-quote="Khisanth the Ancient" data-source="post: 7697097" data-attributes="member: 11368"><p>Lack of thermals, so the eagles would get exhausted faster (which is already going to be a huge problem for long-range transport).</p><p></p><p>And that assumes night would even impair Sauron's vision, which I'm not at all certain of given that Morgoth's servants are tied to darkness.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree. Giant Eagles are clearly <em>less stealthy</em> than Hobbits on foot, and the only way this plan can work is by stealth. </p><p></p><p>Also, one critical problem with the Eagle plan - if a guy like Boromir becomes obsessed with the Ring, Frodo can run and hide. If an Eagle gets obsessed with the Ring while 1,000 feet off the ground, there's nothing Frodo can do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That does strike me as odd. OTOH, who would have brought it up?</p><p></p><p>Gandalf, Elrond etc. wouldn't expect it to work or wouldn't expect the Eagles to agree.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure how much, say, the men of Gondor or the Dwarves know about the Eagles - it's said in the Hobbit that they avoid humans, so most people wouldn't know that they are intelligent.</p><p></p><p>Bilbo knows, and Frodo presumably does since he's heard the story, but they reasonably might not have thought of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khisanth the Ancient, post: 7697097, member: 11368"] Lack of thermals, so the eagles would get exhausted faster (which is already going to be a huge problem for long-range transport). And that assumes night would even impair Sauron's vision, which I'm not at all certain of given that Morgoth's servants are tied to darkness. I disagree. Giant Eagles are clearly [I]less stealthy[/I] than Hobbits on foot, and the only way this plan can work is by stealth. Also, one critical problem with the Eagle plan - if a guy like Boromir becomes obsessed with the Ring, Frodo can run and hide. If an Eagle gets obsessed with the Ring while 1,000 feet off the ground, there's nothing Frodo can do. That does strike me as odd. OTOH, who would have brought it up? Gandalf, Elrond etc. wouldn't expect it to work or wouldn't expect the Eagles to agree. I'm not sure how much, say, the men of Gondor or the Dwarves know about the Eagles - it's said in the Hobbit that they avoid humans, so most people wouldn't know that they are intelligent. Bilbo knows, and Frodo presumably does since he's heard the story, but they reasonably might not have thought of it. [/QUOTE]
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