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<blockquote data-quote="TheLoneRanger1979" data-source="post: 7697214" data-attributes="member: 6804148"><p>At least partially myself, yes. In example until last night i was almost sure that the wizards (namely Gandalf) could summon the Eagles ... somehow...... Only after re reading the chapters (before quoting) did it all get back to me. I find it funny how i remember Silmarillion, Children of Hurin, The lost tales and other stuff better then the Lord of the Rings itself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, no argue from me there. I have no idea how or what would have been used to either spot them or stop them and i am not a great fan of attributing "magical" abilities to solving Middle Earth "problems". But Whatever reason, even Elrond thought more subtle approach was needed. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I think i understand what you are trying to say, but what i meant by autonomy, i meant most of all autonomy from whatever power or chain of command there was among the free peoples of Middle Earth. I.E. even Radagast was a "friend" with the birds, not their master. In the end they probably called their own shots (the will of the Powers in the West excluded). When they arrived in force at the Black Gate, it was either on their own volition or under direct intervention of Manwe (or even Iluvatar).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheLoneRanger1979, post: 7697214, member: 6804148"] At least partially myself, yes. In example until last night i was almost sure that the wizards (namely Gandalf) could summon the Eagles ... somehow...... Only after re reading the chapters (before quoting) did it all get back to me. I find it funny how i remember Silmarillion, Children of Hurin, The lost tales and other stuff better then the Lord of the Rings itself. Oh, no argue from me there. I have no idea how or what would have been used to either spot them or stop them and i am not a great fan of attributing "magical" abilities to solving Middle Earth "problems". But Whatever reason, even Elrond thought more subtle approach was needed. I think i understand what you are trying to say, but what i meant by autonomy, i meant most of all autonomy from whatever power or chain of command there was among the free peoples of Middle Earth. I.E. even Radagast was a "friend" with the birds, not their master. In the end they probably called their own shots (the will of the Powers in the West excluded). When they arrived in force at the Black Gate, it was either on their own volition or under direct intervention of Manwe (or even Iluvatar). [/QUOTE]
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