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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7697296" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>That's a good point. It could be read that way, too.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For the most part, they destroyed Morgoth's armies, but attrition got the better of them and he ultimately won.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think he was roughly equal in relative strength in the Second Age. He was beat by the Numenoreans outright. He walked out and surrendered because he knew he couldn't match their might, and the last alliance of elves and men defeated him and his armies, but with great cost. The First Age elves had the same range of difficulties with Morgoth, at least until the end when attrition made it impossible for them to win and the Valar came to help.</p><p></p><p>In the Third Age he was greater in relative power than Morgoth was in the First Age.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A host of elves in the armor of the elder days could beat trolls, too. The Nazgul would be easily handled by Glorfindel, Galadriel, Elrond and the other remaining first age elves. Really, the issue was Sauron combined with those other creatures.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's true, but all elves of the First Age, even those who have never been to Valinor are much greater and much more powerful than the elves of the Second Age, who were more powerful than those of the Third Age. Thingol never went to Valinor and he was mighty as all get out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7697296, member: 23751"] That's a good point. It could be read that way, too. For the most part, they destroyed Morgoth's armies, but attrition got the better of them and he ultimately won. I think he was roughly equal in relative strength in the Second Age. He was beat by the Numenoreans outright. He walked out and surrendered because he knew he couldn't match their might, and the last alliance of elves and men defeated him and his armies, but with great cost. The First Age elves had the same range of difficulties with Morgoth, at least until the end when attrition made it impossible for them to win and the Valar came to help. In the Third Age he was greater in relative power than Morgoth was in the First Age. A host of elves in the armor of the elder days could beat trolls, too. The Nazgul would be easily handled by Glorfindel, Galadriel, Elrond and the other remaining first age elves. Really, the issue was Sauron combined with those other creatures. That's true, but all elves of the First Age, even those who have never been to Valinor are much greater and much more powerful than the elves of the Second Age, who were more powerful than those of the Third Age. Thingol never went to Valinor and he was mighty as all get out. [/QUOTE]
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