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<blockquote data-quote="GameDoc" data-source="post: 5456845" data-attributes="member: 53915"><p>FWIW, I complimented th OP and still don't think what he did was really egregious. But after seeing some of the counterpoints, yeah, he could have handled it differently.</p><p> </p><p>Honestly, when he first made a metagame statement like "It's in the DMG," or "Because the DM would/wouldn't do X," I would have broken the narrative for a brief few seconds just long enough to politely say "remember your rogue doesn't know he's a character in a role-playing game and wouldn't make decision based on what's in the DMG." or "Trying to anticipate the DM's plan is metagaming, please don't." and then moved right back to where we left off.</p><p> </p><p>The ball is then in his court. If he continues openly metagaming in the face of a reasonable request to stop, it's his bad manners (i.e., he's now the dick). Persisting then becomes blatant disrespect to the DM and other players who are roleplaying their characters as appropriate. If he forces the DM to keep breaking the narrative, it's clearly him doing it.</p><p> </p><p>Some of this is assuming the player understands the problem of metagaming and just keeps on doing it to get a rise out of everyone. If he doesn't understand he might need a little coaching. Otherwise if it's just to be a pest, something a little firmer is warranted.</p><p> </p><p>Some players might feel better if you talk to them after the game, one on one, and not be singled out publically. But some might actually take that as more of an insult or be more embarassed by it and would have preferred you give them an in-game wake up call like the one the OP describes (although maybe not as extensive or elaborate). You kind of have to know the player and let that be your guide as to which.</p><p> </p><p>I gave the OP the benefit of assuming this was a culmination of dealing with a larger pattern of this player being a problem. Maybe I drew the wron inference</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GameDoc, post: 5456845, member: 53915"] FWIW, I complimented th OP and still don't think what he did was really egregious. But after seeing some of the counterpoints, yeah, he could have handled it differently. Honestly, when he first made a metagame statement like "It's in the DMG," or "Because the DM would/wouldn't do X," I would have broken the narrative for a brief few seconds just long enough to politely say "remember your rogue doesn't know he's a character in a role-playing game and wouldn't make decision based on what's in the DMG." or "Trying to anticipate the DM's plan is metagaming, please don't." and then moved right back to where we left off. The ball is then in his court. If he continues openly metagaming in the face of a reasonable request to stop, it's his bad manners (i.e., he's now the dick). Persisting then becomes blatant disrespect to the DM and other players who are roleplaying their characters as appropriate. If he forces the DM to keep breaking the narrative, it's clearly him doing it. Some of this is assuming the player understands the problem of metagaming and just keeps on doing it to get a rise out of everyone. If he doesn't understand he might need a little coaching. Otherwise if it's just to be a pest, something a little firmer is warranted. Some players might feel better if you talk to them after the game, one on one, and not be singled out publically. But some might actually take that as more of an insult or be more embarassed by it and would have preferred you give them an in-game wake up call like the one the OP describes (although maybe not as extensive or elaborate). You kind of have to know the player and let that be your guide as to which. I gave the OP the benefit of assuming this was a culmination of dealing with a larger pattern of this player being a problem. Maybe I drew the wron inference [/QUOTE]
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