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<blockquote data-quote="cougent" data-source="post: 4045736" data-attributes="member: 48665">Well since NO ONE ELSE has mentioned it, maybe you should have communicated with the DM sooner. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Sigurd raised an excellent point that you were probably to patient waiting for things to change, and similar to C W Richeson I would offer that you should have approached the DM and made inquiries about your PC's involvement.&nbsp; Perhaps a direct 1 on 1 about what his feelings are on having a rogue in the group.[if he &quot;doesn't see the need for one&quot; for example, then there may be no solution other than you rolling up another PC, which may not be acceptable to you, but at least you would know]OK, treading very lightly here, on the subject of small children...A few years ago my best friends had a small child, and of course he brought him over with him whenever he came over, and that was fine; EXCEPT I do not have small children and my house is FAR from &quot;child safe / child proof&quot;.&nbsp; So my friend, who is still my best friend today, would start to rearrange my house in an effort to make it kid friendly so his toddler could run around footloose and not get hurt.&nbsp; I certainly did not want the boy hurt either, nor did I want my stuff destroyed, but I also was not real fond of having to go back and un-rearrange my house after they left every time.&nbsp; We got through it, but it was a stressor.&nbsp; The gist of this is that the DM may have had &quot;kid stress&quot; as well and may have transferred thate to you.&nbsp; No knowledge of this of course, just a theory.&nbsp; Talk with any new potential DM's and see how they feel about kids being there during the game. Make sure to find a DM that is ok with having kids there, or better yet has kids so that you are (somewhat) sure that his house is &quot;kid friendly&quot; and not like mine &quot;kid death trap in waiting&quot;. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="cougent, post: 4045736, member: 48665"] Well since NO ONE ELSE has mentioned it, maybe you should have communicated with the DM sooner. :p Sigurd raised an excellent point that you were probably to patient waiting for things to change, and similar to C W Richeson I would offer that you should have approached the DM and made inquiries about your PC's involvement. Perhaps a direct 1 on 1 about what his feelings are on having a rogue in the group. [if he "doesn't see the need for one" for example, then there may be no solution other than you rolling up another PC, which may not be acceptable to you, but at least you would know] OK, treading very lightly here, on the subject of small children... A few years ago my best friends had a small child, and of course he brought him over with him whenever he came over, and that was fine; EXCEPT I do not have small children and my house is FAR from "child safe / child proof". So my friend, who is still my best friend today, would start to rearrange my house in an effort to make it kid friendly so his toddler could run around footloose and not get hurt. I certainly did not want the boy hurt either, nor did I want my stuff destroyed, but I also was not real fond of having to go back and un-rearrange my house after they left every time. We got through it, but it was a stressor. The gist of this is that the DM may have had "kid stress" as well and may have transferred thate to you. No knowledge of this of course, just a theory. Talk with any new potential DM's and see how they feel about kids being there during the game. Make sure to find a DM that is ok with having kids there, or better yet has kids so that you are (somewhat) sure that his house is "kid friendly" and not like mine "kid death trap in waiting". :cool: [/QUOTE]

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