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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 2846856" data-attributes="member: 2525">And there are creatures the fighter will auto-hit unless they roll a 1.&nbsp; And undead that will be turned no matter what the cleric rolls.&nbsp; And spells that will kill certain creatures even if they make their save for half.People who invest in skills shouldn't be benefitted or punished any more than any other character for choosing to go that route rather than a different route.&nbsp; If they put that many skill points into spellcraft, they should get the benefit of the skill unless the DM says BEFORE they took that route that you would nerf the skill if it suddenly starts to annoy the DM, so they have the opportunity to make a different decision on where to invest things.I am not saying that you made any change at all (in fact it's not even clear you are the DM)....just that, from the perspective of the player who made that investment in that skill, he or she probably views things your character does as annoyingly easy as well, or things other characters in the party are doing (if you are the DM).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 2846856, member: 2525"] And there are creatures the fighter will auto-hit unless they roll a 1. And undead that will be turned no matter what the cleric rolls. And spells that will kill certain creatures even if they make their save for half. People who invest in skills shouldn't be benefitted or punished any more than any other character for choosing to go that route rather than a different route. If they put that many skill points into spellcraft, they should get the benefit of the skill unless the DM says BEFORE they took that route that you would nerf the skill if it suddenly starts to annoy the DM, so they have the opportunity to make a different decision on where to invest things. I am not saying that you made any change at all (in fact it's not even clear you are the DM)....just that, from the perspective of the player who made that investment in that skill, he or she probably views things your character does as annoyingly easy as well, or things other characters in the party are doing (if you are the DM). [/QUOTE]

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