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<blockquote data-quote="ValhallaGH" data-source="post: 3172167" data-attributes="member: 41187">You weren't unfair but you did forget the central pillar of heroic fantasy.What's the stupidest, most suicidal thing I could do?That's what I do.&nbsp; Not only is it cool but it actually has the best survival rate.This lesson has been reinforced hundreds of thousands of times in books, movies and adventure modules.&nbsp; The floor opens into a hole, what do you do?&nbsp; Jump in and see where it takes you.You did warn them that it was horror fantasy and that they should watch themselves.&nbsp; But they followed the central pillar of heroic fantasy rather than the central pillar of horror fantasy (The bad guys will win.&nbsp; I can only slow them down for a brief time before I die.) and paid the price for it.Good luck this next time through.Side note: What kind of giant is only CR 4?&nbsp; How is it still CR 4 after it's had a template dumped on it?&nbsp; Ogres are CR 3 and they are the wimpiest (semi-real) giants I am aware of.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ValhallaGH, post: 3172167, member: 41187"] You weren't unfair but you did forget the central pillar of heroic fantasy. What's the stupidest, most suicidal thing I could do? That's what I do. Not only is it cool but it actually has the best survival rate. This lesson has been reinforced hundreds of thousands of times in books, movies and adventure modules. The floor opens into a hole, what do you do? Jump in and see where it takes you. You did warn them that it was horror fantasy and that they should watch themselves. But they followed the central pillar of heroic fantasy rather than the central pillar of horror fantasy (The bad guys will win. I can only slow them down for a brief time before I die.) and paid the price for it. Good luck this next time through. Side note: What kind of giant is only CR 4? How is it still CR 4 after it's had a template dumped on it? Ogres are CR 3 and they are the wimpiest (semi-real) giants I am aware of. [/QUOTE]

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