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Was there a real need for a fourth ed.? Or would tweaking 3.5 have done it for you?
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<blockquote data-quote="Oni" data-source="post: 4546943" data-attributes="member: 380"><p>First off I like 3.x, it's the edition I've spent the most time playing. </p><p></p><p>I think 3.x was beginning to suffer from rules bloat, keep expanding on something and eventually it will collapse under its own weight. Now one might say that was all ignoreable, just use core. However I think a lot of bloat was trying to address shortcomings in the core. I felt like like a lot of PrC's were bandaids to fix things that didn't work so well with core. </p><p></p><p>Ideally an edition should collapse eventualy under the weight of its own rule tweaks, then all the good stuff is moved to core and previous problems are addressed and the process begins again, hopefully with a more refined product each time. I love 3e put like anything it was flawed and I think that it had a reasonable lifecyle. </p><p></p><p>If you're afraid to change things it leads to stagnation and a magnification of oddities. I've started following the developement of Pathfinder for instance and I like some of what they've done, but the whole idea of backwards compatability is very irritating to me because I can see it holding to much potential back and in some ways just making the system quirkier and quirker.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oni, post: 4546943, member: 380"] First off I like 3.x, it's the edition I've spent the most time playing. I think 3.x was beginning to suffer from rules bloat, keep expanding on something and eventually it will collapse under its own weight. Now one might say that was all ignoreable, just use core. However I think a lot of bloat was trying to address shortcomings in the core. I felt like like a lot of PrC's were bandaids to fix things that didn't work so well with core. Ideally an edition should collapse eventualy under the weight of its own rule tweaks, then all the good stuff is moved to core and previous problems are addressed and the process begins again, hopefully with a more refined product each time. I love 3e put like anything it was flawed and I think that it had a reasonable lifecyle. If you're afraid to change things it leads to stagnation and a magnification of oddities. I've started following the developement of Pathfinder for instance and I like some of what they've done, but the whole idea of backwards compatability is very irritating to me because I can see it holding to much potential back and in some ways just making the system quirkier and quirker. [/QUOTE]
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