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Was there a real need for a fourth ed.? Or would tweaking 3.5 have done it for you?
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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4547486" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>I played tons of 3.5, only really had 1 campaign of 2e and was pretty ignorant of the rules for it. 3.5 I dove in headfirst, picking up tons of splat books and wanting to do lots of cool things.</p><p> </p><p>What ended up happening?</p><p> </p><p>Had a high level game that was fun, but when it ended the group didn't really meet up anymore.</p><p> </p><p>Had another game that went to pretty good levels but eventually got rebooted because it got to a level where the PCs were uber powerful [i.e. we made it to the top end of the sweet spot].</p><p> </p><p>Then there were the "start at level 1" games ... none of those games EVER got us to the sweet spot, we always gave up before then ... having the option of doing. So the idea of the sweet spot when I started hearing about it, was definitely in my mind.</p><p> </p><p>I liked parts of 3.5, but I'm really enjoying 4e. With the ammount of stuff in 3.5 ... any "update" would have been a reboot anyway, and I'm not sure how many people would wait for a 3.75 version of Complete Arcane to come out with the new and improved warlock and pay for the same book again, to get most of the same stuff with slight improvements.</p><p> </p><p>3.75 would still have some of the same problems as 4e in terms of eliminating tons of options by going back. It would then be covering all the same ground in basically the same way but with less "fix the earlier stuff" content in splat books ... well, to start anyway.</p><p> </p><p>Also if they were going to do a new edition ... making it significantly different was the way to go. A minor improvement over 3.5 would beg the question... is the improvement worth rebuying all the 3.5 books you already know? A lot of people say that 4e is a different game ... and it is. 2e and 3e are also very different games. I think that quite a few people would be insulted if someone tried to sell you a game you already own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4547486, member: 63763"] I played tons of 3.5, only really had 1 campaign of 2e and was pretty ignorant of the rules for it. 3.5 I dove in headfirst, picking up tons of splat books and wanting to do lots of cool things. What ended up happening? Had a high level game that was fun, but when it ended the group didn't really meet up anymore. Had another game that went to pretty good levels but eventually got rebooted because it got to a level where the PCs were uber powerful [i.e. we made it to the top end of the sweet spot]. Then there were the "start at level 1" games ... none of those games EVER got us to the sweet spot, we always gave up before then ... having the option of doing. So the idea of the sweet spot when I started hearing about it, was definitely in my mind. I liked parts of 3.5, but I'm really enjoying 4e. With the ammount of stuff in 3.5 ... any "update" would have been a reboot anyway, and I'm not sure how many people would wait for a 3.75 version of Complete Arcane to come out with the new and improved warlock and pay for the same book again, to get most of the same stuff with slight improvements. 3.75 would still have some of the same problems as 4e in terms of eliminating tons of options by going back. It would then be covering all the same ground in basically the same way but with less "fix the earlier stuff" content in splat books ... well, to start anyway. Also if they were going to do a new edition ... making it significantly different was the way to go. A minor improvement over 3.5 would beg the question... is the improvement worth rebuying all the 3.5 books you already know? A lot of people say that 4e is a different game ... and it is. 2e and 3e are also very different games. I think that quite a few people would be insulted if someone tried to sell you a game you already own. [/QUOTE]
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