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Wasp Swarm as an animal companion
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<blockquote data-quote="DarkelvenSFi" data-source="post: 4714407" data-attributes="member: 82911"><p><strong>A bit much..</strong></p><p></p><p>As a DM, I wouldn't allow it. Especially not for a level 1 character. Something like this would be allowed as a spell for a higher level character that had a selected number of rounds of operation. But as a constant effect, it's too powerful. The damage, distraction, resultant inability to cast spells, poison, and restraints in attacking them are too much.</p><p></p><p>You could quite happily hide somewhere and let your swarm attack a hoard of low level goblins and rack up your exp.. </p><p></p><p>One thing missing from your explanation is how much space they occupy; I've assumed it's a 5ft square. [edit; you did specify this 10ft square = dealing damage to 4 creatures a round; 4d6 damage for a level 1 character.. none I know of can do that]</p><p></p><p>But this is the main reason I wouldn't have the companion(s); It would be very easy to destroy them. Any area of effect damaging spell would kill them. A fireball doesn't deal (eg) 6d6 damage to the 1 creature, it deals 6d6 damage to each creature in the effect (all 200 of them).</p><p></p><p>Then you're left wanting to spread them out, and to use them as scouts over wide areas. If part of the swarm dies, contingencies have to be made for how much damage they then deal with reduced numbers, how quickly they regenerate (provided there is a queen).</p><p></p><p>Not to mention you being able to use touch spells and similar through the companion; which always hit.</p><p></p><p>A great idea in theory, but in practice, it's going to be a nightmare. </p><p></p><p></p><p>An option you have to counter these problems is to have a hive queen as your companion. Over time you can have the queen build up a number of workers who can fly off to fight, but die from stress/fatigue after X many attacks. This way, you can keep the best parts of your companion without making the system skew in your favour. The damage dealt and number of attacks you get before needing them to rest can also increase over the life of your character.</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkelvenSFi, post: 4714407, member: 82911"] [b]A bit much..[/b] As a DM, I wouldn't allow it. Especially not for a level 1 character. Something like this would be allowed as a spell for a higher level character that had a selected number of rounds of operation. But as a constant effect, it's too powerful. The damage, distraction, resultant inability to cast spells, poison, and restraints in attacking them are too much. You could quite happily hide somewhere and let your swarm attack a hoard of low level goblins and rack up your exp.. One thing missing from your explanation is how much space they occupy; I've assumed it's a 5ft square. [edit; you did specify this 10ft square = dealing damage to 4 creatures a round; 4d6 damage for a level 1 character.. none I know of can do that] But this is the main reason I wouldn't have the companion(s); It would be very easy to destroy them. Any area of effect damaging spell would kill them. A fireball doesn't deal (eg) 6d6 damage to the 1 creature, it deals 6d6 damage to each creature in the effect (all 200 of them). Then you're left wanting to spread them out, and to use them as scouts over wide areas. If part of the swarm dies, contingencies have to be made for how much damage they then deal with reduced numbers, how quickly they regenerate (provided there is a queen). Not to mention you being able to use touch spells and similar through the companion; which always hit. A great idea in theory, but in practice, it's going to be a nightmare. An option you have to counter these problems is to have a hive queen as your companion. Over time you can have the queen build up a number of workers who can fly off to fight, but die from stress/fatigue after X many attacks. This way, you can keep the best parts of your companion without making the system skew in your favour. The damage dealt and number of attacks you get before needing them to rest can also increase over the life of your character. Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
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