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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 2647194" data-attributes="member: 35678">No problem for the praise, suggestions or the rules-lawyering. This is a wicked idea, and you give it a nice niche to fill with alot of flavour to boot. Wicked Pally!!Ah. Well, i was assuming that there were in fatc regular paladins. In that case, are you still going with Lawful Good as their alignment?? I'd haev to call you on that, and give them Neutral Good, given what i have been reading about your campaign.about this, and the other part of your post which basically says Plane of Fire = Evil; i am a bit confused. The way i am getting this is that if most evil creatures deal with fire guys (ie orcs IYC, demons, devils, elementals, etc) why should this paladin be able to Detect any type of evil?? Since you are so closely tie certain classes to elements, IMHO you paladin should only be able to detect Fire creatures. You stated yourself that [/]your[/i] Ocean Paladin is not a standard Paladin; but in this case i think you fail to differentiate between the two. Just my thoughts on that, but if you find a weakness in my arguament, feel free to debate it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I don't mind, i like helping people <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />there sitn really a replacement that would be appropriate for this; besides, it really fits the concept of a divine knight character (at least a high fanatsy one). Definitly keep it.yeah, it was just a matter of look it all up; i should not for this that Quench does A LOT of potential dmaage to fire elementals; which is why . . . .  (read below) you may want to down the damage dealing spells a bit. Quench can only be used a few times a week, but it can do soemthing like 15d6 at 15th level (i am not sure how'd this would work exactly wit the paladin, since the Druid'd spell quench is designed for a full catser, and the paladin is a secondary caster, but w/e; just specifics).Still, you wouldn't want to take away from the Evokers or Sorcerers (if they were a damage-dealing build) roles. I'd just go through and take away the ones that are obviously a bit too powerful to ahve. Ugh, unfortunately, i am not that good with spell balance, so suggestions for exact balance won't be comeing from me. :S sorry.Keep it for now; it keep the balacne of this class intact. When you find a satisfactory swap for it, then switch it in.Again, no problem; i will prolly follow through with this thread till it's officially balanced > like i said, i LOVE this class, so i'll be glad to help out so long as it is needed.</blockquote>

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